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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous] The math is very simple in fact easy to show how working women are at the short end of the stick. As we see from another thread, services of a full time house manager at the current market rate are $100K/year. Let's imagine we have 2 equal earners, each making 200K in the family, but only woman pulls off after school duties, running errands etc. She de-facto works 2 shifts contributing 300K into household, while husband commutes less and contributes 200K. [/quote] Half of the house manager job is on her, so even with this very flawed premise, it would be 250K, not 300K. [quote=Anonymous]With lower paid women, the math is even worse: she would have to commute for example, to make extra $70k/year, while also doing a "second shift" with kids contributing 100K. So she contributed 170K working 2 shifts, where he contributed 200K working one. She also now has less time left for example, to grow professionallly and get certifications, attend a grad program to even out the income gap. She is also mommy tracked a her work for always being late, stressed, they argue at home etc. [/quote] No one at that income level needs or hires house managers, and she isn't doing that, either. Also: there are tons of single women in low-paid, dead-end, low-ambition, "mommy track" work. Who's holding them down? Lack of ambition is evenly spread in the population, and a married woman, just like a single one, may be perfectly content (or unable to achieve anything other than) a low-wattage job. [quote=Anonymous]The government doesn't offer her or kids an insurance, good free schools, good parental leave to remain healthy and succeed. She has no way out. This is how marriage becomes a low paid hard labor and servitude for many working moms. Women have figured it out, and DINK movement is huge in DMV area. [/quote] Of course she has a way out: divorce and leave the children to the husband. I mean didn't you say she should be paid for the 100% of pregnancy, childbirth and child-rearing? That's what you do with the service you provide to others; so wrap up your services and depart like a chef who has cooked a week's worth of meals without eating them, or a cleaning crew that spit-and-polished the house without living in it. Leave the kids. Let's see if they are all his. You know what else is huge in the DMV area? Fertility clinics, where women are lining up to perform a "service" you think they should be paid for. [/quote] It's not the lack of ambition, but often lack of skills and women having kids in their 20s that's holding them back on the corporate ladder. Without being in a highly paid field, she's stuck with very slow growing corporate salaries beginning from 60K a year, and everyone knows about salaries deflation. Men marry on average 2 years later, and start having kids later (closer to 30s), while facing less discrimination at work. There is no single research that proves women lack ambition en masse vs men. It's actually the opposite. And why is HE not pick up his crap at home, so that the wife doesn't need to run 2 shifts? On your suggestion, I know 2 families where an high paying exW in fact took off with a lover and left kids with a much lower paid exH. She paid him alimony but his career never recovered after the divorce. He ended up stuck in mid 150K in his profession after being de-facto single dad for 10 years. Professional women line up for IVF because they don't need dads on board, more trouble than actual contribution in most cases. [/quote] This is well said and very interesting.[/quote]
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