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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Sorry to disappoint the Covid fans in this thread, but MoCo is back down to the Low community level. We’re not bringing back masks.[/quote]

Where are you seeing low? The DHHS website says medium and the CDC high. [/quote]

The county dashboard says low: https://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/covid19/data/

We're right on the edge between low and medium, but the CDC's will almost certainly drop to at least medium when they do their weekly update on Thursday.[/quote]

Wrong chart.
Community transmission in Montgomery County is currently HIGH. It is the only count in Maryland with high transmission.[/quote]

Current guidelines from the CDC are based on community levels.  And that says [url=https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#county-view?list_select_state=Maryland&data-type=&list_select_county=24031]low[/url].

And not that it matters, but Montgomery County doesn't have the highest cases in Maryland.  I'm not sure where you got that idea.[/quote]

Different poster here…The Washington Post shares this information as well (daily update). Today’s paper has both Montgomery County and Prince George’s County in the “high” range (Red). These are the only two local counties listed as “high.”[/quote]

Takes a bit of selecting and scrolling to get to useful info:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2020/national/coronavirus-us-cases-deaths/?state=MD

Montgomery Co seems to be middle of the pack with 22 cases per 100K.  Allegheny and Wicomico are about twice as bad.
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This is why we need testing as most people aren't reporting it so we don't have actual real numbers.[/quote]

Why? We already know covid is everywhere. And it’s going to stay everywhere. The point is that (vaccinated) people aren’t getting particularly more sick than they do with other common respiratory illnesses. Do we mandate regular testing for colds and the flu?[/quote]

It turns out many are but these side-effects can take 1-2 years to show up.[/quote]

Stop making things up, lol.  [/quote]

The original statement you're responding to is poorly phrased, so you're technically correct, but not because your counter-argument is a worthy one.

"Long COVID—or post-COVID conditions—is a wide range of new, returning or ongoing health problems people may experience more than four weeks after being first infected with SARS-CoV-2."

https://www.ama-assn.org/delivering-care/public-health/what-doctors-wish-patients-knew-about-long-covid

“We are seeing patients who are often very high-functioning, healthy children who did not have any previous illnesses or medical conditions,” she says, noting that many of the kids being treated at the clinic only had mild bouts of COVID-19.

Heart inflammation after COVID-19 is a concern, especially among young athletes returning to their sports after a mild or even asymptomatic case of the coronavirus. They should be screened for any signs of heart damage to ensure it is safe for them to resume activity."

https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/conditions-and-diseases/coronavirus/covid-long-haulers-long-term-effects-of-covid19

"About 44.9% of COVID-19 survivors appear to have developed pulmonary fibrosis."
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8983072/
NOTE: the conditions are relatively narrow, but help to establish a causal link

"Progressive fibrotic lung disease is one of the possible consequences of COVID-19 pulmonary pneumonia, and it is one of the most worrying long-term complications. Pulmonary fibrosis is associated with non-reversible lung dysfunction."
https://ejrnm.springeropen.com/articles/10.1186/s43055-021-00484-3

In other words, long covid may onset more than four weeks after initial infection, however the long-term damage is highly variable and not well known since there is no prior data on long-term effects of omicron covid in the 2-year+ timeframe.  Omicron only started last year.

What is concerning is that there seems to be a clear causal relationship between pulmonary fibrosis (lung scarring) and covid.  What I don't think anyone has studied yet is what lung scarring multiple covid re-infections causes in young children, and we have no clue how multiple-infected children will do as their lungs become less elastic in their 30's, 40's, 50's, etc.

For the people who say "covid is like the flu", I would refer them to this finding:

"Fibrosis is not common following other viral pneumonias and has almost never been reported after H1N1 pneumonia."
https://ejrnm.springeropen.com/articles/10.1186/s43055-021-00484-3

In other words, the flu normally doesn't scar your lungs.

But if you all want to send in your kids to school unmasked, please feel free to excercise your parental rights.  I just hope your kids forgive you someday.[/quote]

Even masked it may be an issue.  Are you sending your kids?   If you are, let’s stop pretending you are careful.  [/quote]

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