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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]The intel community is actually widely conservative/Republican. Not sure why folks think they would lie? Or that the whole source for this is 4chan. People are delusional as Trump!![/quote]

Widely? Come on. LEO is widely conservative/republican. Intel, especially the CIA, is very ivy league. And the ivy league has always had a large 'liberal' population, one that has become a near totality on their campuses recently.

Pro tip: don't think about this stuff on the liberal/conservative binary. Think of it as groups, mafias really, fighting over the limited turf out there. The general population is caught between these detestable groups and should recognize them as all parasitic.[/quote]

[b]Most Ivy League liberals wouldn't be caught dead working for an intelligence agency.[/b] They are too pure, at least in their early years!

Also, I think there are a lot more conservatives at Ivy League campuses than you think. Granted it's been 10 years but when I went back for law school (to the same university as undergrad), I was very struck by how much more visible conservative voices were than they'd been even a couple years before. Numbers-wise perhaps not a ton, but they were quite vocal.[/quote]

That's true, no doubt. But "ivy league liberals" or whatever is a pretty large group of people relative to the # employed in intel. And you can count on the preponderance of ivy leaguers to value their own career and self-aggrandizement over any need to be pro-social.

I agree on "conservatives" at ivy league campuses. What they're aren't so many of are "Conservatives": case matters here. The intel agencies are full of people who are "Liberals" while being "conservative". An Ivy league degree ties you to the establishment, to the idea that tomorrow should mostly be like today or yesterday. Intel agencies indulge these folks in sexy work and given them very fat budgets to do it. But a lot of the work is substantively about maintaining the status quo vis-a-vis the place of the American elite abroad, which is "conservative" if possibly "Liberal" in a domestic political sense.

Sorry, but I know a bunch of these folks and I'll reiterate: this is an ugly, ugly turf war amongst members of the elite. These are the elephants of "When elephants fight, the grass is crushed". The mafias in the elite are elephants, almost all of the population is the grass. And I am deeply saddened by what all this portends.[/quote]

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