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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Haven't checked-in in a couple weeks. Anything new? Looked back a few pages and arguing with the crazy August guy (and his multiple personas) seems to be the only action.

MLSN still being silent on the issue (even after their partner GA announced SY) is baffling to me. I know their communications have always been slow (case in point, they didn't announce the actual name of MLSN2 until what, August), but I don't see what benefit it can be at this point to stay mum. Unless they just enjoy watching ECNL sweat. I talked to a few directors (one MLSN1 and two MLSN2) in the last month and they were all over the place on what they thought was going to happen and all had heard absolutely nothing official. [/quote]

I don’t think mlsnext has a plan. I think they were full steam ahead BY not realizing the difficulty that would cause their clubs. Do they care now? Who knows. [/quote]

MLS Next doesn't own or run clubs 
It's a league

A league that doesn't concern with what all the lower leagues are doing [/quote]

Lower leagues are their pipeline.  If either or both MLSN leagues stay BY, they will lose a year's worth of 9v9 experience.  They also lose out on cumulative RAE effect for the majority of better players to that point that were on SY registration, pushing those players to find an alternative SY league.  MLSN is a business first.  You know that, but you are just trying to start an argument.  [/quote]

[b]Their top tier is losing money left and right. The league is dependent on money from p2p mlsn 1 and 2 clubs. The league has to think through issues to staying BY to ensure they are still financially viable[/b].

1. How to expand mlsn1 in the future when all outside clubs are 8/1
2. What to do about mlsn2 and how to make a second tier league attractive. They wouldn’t have created mlsn2 if they didn’t need the money.
3. How to keep aug-dec in the mlsn pathway when teams switch from 8/1 to 1/1. A certain number can play down?

If the league has a plan for these issues that allows them to stay BY good for them. The attitude that “mlsn is the best and can do whatever it wants” is not going to lead anywhere good. [/quote]

Man, talk about just making stuff up for argument sake lol [/quote]

I think you  have no idea how MLSNext works.

MLS academies are a minority of MLSNext.

P2P clubs’ interest is MLS Next moving to SY, otherwise they won’t be able to self organize.[/quote]

So P2P clubs are more important than the Major League Soccer pipeline and USYNT?[/quote]

Yes, they are.

P2P are the core for the MLSNext 1/2 business model started last year with the recent creation of the MLS Next Academy Division (pure business Pay To Play soccer).

MLS Next 1 P2P clubs, plus the whole MLS Next 2 (all P2P) have nothing to do with MLS pipeline and USYNT.

I think you haven’t realized that last year MLS Next changed in a direction very different that when it was founded.

This new MLSNext 1/2 is incompatible (to be successful) with a BY system, due to the fact that the whole rest of US soccer has moved to SY.[/quote]

100% P2P MLS1 has no real connection to the actual MLS Next (aka MLS Academy) — other than one token game a year to play down against a younger MLS Academy team. Any attempt to link it to a professional pathway is just marketing scam and a joke.
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There is no “actual” MLS Next different than Homegrown and Academy divisions, where in both divisions P2P clubs OUTNUMBER by a lot to MLS academies.

MLS Next decided to separate of a pure professional pathway when they decided to incorporate dozens of P2P clubs to the 2 leagues.

MLS Next big money comes from P2P clubs parents, not from MLS academies.

By the way my son is a 2011 U15 (starter and max scorer) at a MLS academy, playing at U16 because this year MLS academies are playing 1 year up, and being beaten badly many times by U16 P2P clubs.

Believe me, coaches and staff are infuriated with MLS Next forcing academies to play 1 year up.[/quote]

What do you think mlsn does next year regarding the age cutoff?[/quote]

I believe the best solution for everybody would be:

1) MLS Next Homegrown/Academy divisions moving to SY, so that P2P clubs can organize all their age categories in an orderly manner, and not breaking the U12 pipeline to U13. From business point of view MLS Next could grow and face ECNL.

2) MLS academies playing MLS Next Homegrown (SY) but assembling their teams with a BY age cutoff. In that way they would play 5 months up, what would add an extra challenging effort, and also would be aligned with international, professional and USYNs interests.

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You dont seem to understand that the top tier makes the rules not the rec leagues.[/quote]

Dude, you are outdated.

You don’t understand MLS Next’s interests, seems you are anchored to old and gone times …

Welcome to the new MLS Next business model! [/quote]

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