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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]It’s just a political lie that Israel has to tell its public “We are fighting to get the hostages back”

“the Israeli government is dedicating to ending Hamas”

No they aren’t. Israel is lying to their public just like the US lied to ours about Iraq.

Why would they want Hamas gone at all?! They shut US suggestions down about Egypt or the Palestinian Authority taking over administering Gaza.

The point for Israel is to ethnically cleanse  Gazans like some biblical genocides completely and for Israel to take it back [/quote]
Then what?
Gaza is unlivable, no water, unexploded shells in the ruins, rotting corpses 
Do Israelis have no conscience? Are there really people willing to move on top of a graveyard far away from where the jobs are just to be able to call themselves some kind of religious pioneers?[/quote]

Israel had been out of Gaza for twenty years. Until Palestinians invaded and committed all those atrocities in a single morning.

Look, Israel spent decades trying for a two state solution. And Palestinians are clearly not interested in two states. They want Hamas and an Islamic theocracy. There's not a lot of space here for some kind of peaceful, common sense negotiation.

Palestinians made their choices. And it's sad and pathetic. It's like the ISIS wives stuck in refugee camps in Syria. I don't know. Maybe don't marry the terrorists. And that's what Palestinians are - the ISIS wives. Absolutely no one wants them, so they are stuck because they made some really stupid choices. [/quote]

Blockade. Land, sea, air. No matter how many times uninformed voices like yours whisper down the lane with tired, blatantly dishonest propaganda about Israel seeking a two-state solution, the fact is that Zionists have only ever wanted ALL of the land.[/quote]

Just a heads up. Y'all need to lose the Zionist terminology. 98 percent of Americans believe Israel has a right to exist. And as for those 2 percent? It's usually Charlottesville tiki torch marchers. You should all wear a hood or something so you can find each other. Or maybe a special arm band.   [/quote]

Oh, c’mon now - nobody believes that THAT is what Zionism ideology is actually about. It’s actually about shoving the myth of Jewish supremacy down the throat of everyone in its path (“But we’re the chosen people!”), it’s about relentlessly provoking conflict with Israel’s neighbors for the purpose of expanding the dimensions of the state, and it’s especially about exploiting useful idiots like you to slander anyone who dares to call it like it is.

There ain’t nobody on this planet better suited to wear a white hooded robe than modern day Zionists. Acts of blatant, violent racism and brutal subjugation of others “beneath” them might as well be scenes portrayed on the shekel. As for the tiki torches - ah, makes sense - is that part of the light into nations nonsense we keep hearing about?[/quote]
Actually, Zionists believe Israel has a right to exist. That's Zionism.[/quote]

If you actually believe that, I’m frightened to ask you to provide a definition of what the word “exist” means to you.[/quote]
Exist. Be recognized as a legitimate sovereign state. Beyond that, they have to navigate complex international relations like every other state. Existence means not entertaining wiping Israel from the map or claiming it's an illegitimate occupier.

Existence doesn't define its borders. Personally, I think they need to remove settlements from the West Bank and I'm in favor of a two state solution. Existence isn't about superiority. The "chosen-ness" of the Jewish people is about a particular relationship with God, not one that is necessarily better, just one that is ours.

Anyway, I'm not sure what you expected "existence" to mean?[/quote]

What about admitting that creating Israel necessitated violent displacement of non-Jews from the land? That the concept of the Jewish state meant a Jewish government and a Jewish majority where none existed originally?[/quote]

This is what I have a hard time grappling with as well. I've read the history and to be honest that's all where it started....but whether or not I believe creating Israel based on a religious group's claim to the land....and forcing/displacing non-Jews...was right ot wrong (although IMHO it was wrong)...it's too late now. What's done is done.

But we also need to stop blindly supporting Israel by giving them billions in military aid. Spend that money on our ducation and helping US citizens.[/quote]

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