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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]It’s just a political lie that Israel has to tell its public “We are fighting to get the hostages back”

“the Israeli government is dedicating to ending Hamas”

No they aren’t. Israel is lying to their public just like the US lied to ours about Iraq.

Why would they want Hamas gone at all?! They shut US suggestions down about Egypt or the Palestinian Authority taking over administering Gaza.

The point for Israel is to ethnically cleanse  Gazans like some biblical genocides completely and for Israel to take it back [/quote]
Then what?
Gaza is unlivable, no water, unexploded shells in the ruins, rotting corpses 
Do Israelis have no conscience? Are there really people willing to move on top of a graveyard far away from where the jobs are just to be able to call themselves some kind of religious pioneers?[/quote]

Israel had been out of Gaza for twenty years. Until Palestinians invaded and committed all those atrocities in a single morning.

Look, Israel spent decades trying for a two state solution. And Palestinians are clearly not interested in two states. They want Hamas and an Islamic theocracy. There's not a lot of space here for some kind of peaceful, common sense negotiation.

Palestinians made their choices. And it's sad and pathetic. It's like the ISIS wives stuck in refugee camps in Syria. I don't know. Maybe don't marry the terrorists. And that's what Palestinians are - the ISIS wives. Absolutely no one wants them, so they are stuck because they made some really stupid choices. [/quote]

Blockade. Land, sea, air. No matter how many times uninformed voices like yours whisper down the lane with tired, blatantly dishonest propaganda about Israel seeking a two-state solution, the fact is that Zionists have only ever wanted ALL of the land.[/quote]

Just a heads up. Y'all need to lose the Zionist terminology. 98 percent of Americans believe Israel has a right to exist. And as for those 2 percent? It's usually Charlottesville tiki torch marchers. You should all wear a hood or something so you can find each other. Or maybe a special arm band.   [/quote]

The basic meaning of Zionism differs depending on the type of Zionist you are talking about. Some simply believe it means Israel has the right to exist which is probably  where the majority of people lie in and there’s no controversy with this statement or belief at all.

Then, there’s the Zionists who believe Jews have the right to rule over others, kill non Jews, steal from non Jews, and that apparently this is all kosher because they are Gods chosen people personally delivered some oil less “promise land” because Moses wandered the desert for 40 days or something and entered (in Gaza ironically) from the Sinai. These Zionists are often religious zealots/extremists  and unfortunately those are the brilliant minds leading Israel right now especially despite the anger of the Israeli public last year. This is the most right wing nut Israeli government ever in its history and they’re also homophobic, sexist, and racist  as well. Netanyahu has two extremists he deals with: Hamas and the settlers/ultra Zionist zealots.

For some reason though, moderate Zionists who simply believe Israel deserves to exist blame Gazans for electing Hamas in 2006 yet they don’t say a word about Bibi or ask that same election question to the Israeli public. Why keep the extremists in? It’s because both sides see the utility in crazy to keep the other sides crazy out (Gazans don’t want the settlers and Hamas pre-10/7 protected against that, and Israelis didn’t want two state solution with a Palestinian army so the crazies protected against that)[/quote]

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