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And it's truly astounding that anyone would even try something as lame as "yabut the US is worse than Russia" given Stalin murdered at least 6 million of his own people plus hundreds of thousands more in Russia's expansionism and proxy wars around the globe.  FOH!

Not to mention, that when the US did go into Iraq, I don't recall the US threatening to kill millions by saying "STAY OUT OF IT OR THERE WILL BE REPRISALS LIKE THE WORLD HAS NEVER SEEN" while raising nuclear readiness levels.  But Russia certainly DID do that.

Russia is FAR worse than the US, by any measure.[/quote]

That isn't what I wrote. I wrote that it is dangerous to believe, by reflex, that we are the "good guys", and that the other guys are "evil".

Real life isn't a Marvel comic book with selfless super-heroes and black-hearted super-villains.

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Fine, then we're the far-less-bad guys.  Still doesn't get Russia off the hook.[/quote]

DP. I don’t think anyone is trying to get Russia off the hook. But it’s a little disturbing that you’ve seemed to have forgotten the violent regime change the US has engaged in since at least the beginning of the 20th century. Iran, countless South American countries, Iraq, Vietnam, the Koreas …

None of that even includes how we treated innocent Muslims after 9/11, including holding people without trial at Guantanamo, setting up secret torture sites, etc.

One can—and should—consider Russian and US actions around the world horrific. [/quote]

You are free to call US actions horrific, go to Moscow and try saying the same about Russian actions and you may learn about being held without trial [/quote]

I don’t know what point you’re trying to make. Are you really not capable of calling US actions horrific? [/quote]

They aren’t. And even if there were no Russian invasion, it would still never be an appropriate time to calmly, rationally, and accurately discuss US interventions and escalations and warmongering acts abroad. It never is. And that’s part of why you have a lot of MC/UMC posters here who are glad to have a Good War far far away, where they can stare at that on TV and not worry about the Covid-40 pounds they have to lose, to just hang out here and on WaPo and claim the US just must “do more” (“more” undefined, but I’m sure after Zelensky addresses Congress a whooolllle bunch of war addicts will say a no-fly zone can and should be put in place) because this is essentially a Rocky IV restaging in their heads. [/quote]

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