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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I can't speak for the boys side, but the lowest teams on the girls side are usually painfully weak. Rec level or worse b/c rec teams usually have at least a few talented athletes. So Valor gives them terrible coaches. If they get someone halfway decent, its a Valor miracle.  [/quote]

Maybe it's the players and not the coaches. Chicken salad made from chicken crap is still made of crap. [/quote]

Yeah, but I'm talking really basic coaching expectations, like showing up on time, or showing up at all, not being crazy, etc. [/quote]

Valor should seriously look at cutting the 3rd team program all together. Bad coaches, bad players... nothing more than a fundraiser [/quote]

Their 3rd-5th teams are their moneymakers. They play in cheaper leagues, cheaper and fewer tournaments, have cheaper inexperienced coaches, but everyone pays the same fees. Basically their worse teams subsidize their first teams.[/quote]

Insane how these entitled parents are okay with their kids being nothing more than monetary support for kids with actual talent. [/quote]

if a kid wants to start playing soccer but more competitive than rec leagues.  They get placed in 3rd or lower team.  The parent agrees.  This makes the parents "entitled" for agreeing to pay and give their child a starting point?
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Entitled in general, not specifically in the soccer realm. This is NOVA, remember? Everyone's kid is better and deserves more than everyone else's.

Just funny how many people complain about the quality of coaches on 3-5 teams, when they players are terrible as well. As we both know, it's nothing more than a fundraiser for the kids with actual talent. Just hard to believe NOVA parents are okay with that, but then again, they all believe their kid is going to go from 5 to 1 and play for the USNT one day. [/quote]

There is plenty to complain about regarding the coaches of certain first and second teams as well. No one wants to out themselves, so they aren't going to necessarily identify team/age group/coach. [/quote]

Anyone who feels 3rd or lower teams should not exist are the ones who feel “entitled” that only higher level teams should exist.  Some kids just want to play travel soccer even if they aren’t that good.  Why are you so sold on this?  You think denying kids a starting point or an opportunity to play , even at the lower levels, is how things should be?  If so, you are the one with entitlement issues. [/quote]

Ahhh the "everyone should be able to participate" mindset. How 2025 liberal of you!

If anything, you're arguing that lesser talented kids should be entitled to a team to play on...

I think we should teach kids to find something they're actually good at and be honest with them that some things just aren't for them.[/quote]
What if a different arrogant arse parent thinks all 2nd teams aren't good enough to be allowed to play soccer?  Or that all these local clubs are trash anyway and shouldn't exist?  What a dumb argument.
If parents are willing to pay for a better experience than rec, with more practice for kids who like to play soccer, then why can't they?  It's not like they are entering the same tournament brackets as the soccer protege kids you think have some exclusive right to the game.  In fact, they subsidize those kids.  $3k just isn't that expensive for many families in Nova - and super cheap for the total number of hours it keeps my kid happy, making friends, and getting good exercise.  My kid might even be having more fun than yours with all the pressure it seems like you probably put on them.  Hope they don't burn out before they get that D3 soccer offer someday.[/quote]

I can't stop laughing. You really thought you said something here, didn't you?  :lol: [/quote]

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