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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Problems that all lined up tragically:

Number one issue: Crowded airport with helicopters crossing into the flight paths of landing jets with little clearance room. This was standard, yes, but it diminishes room for human error or other issues, which needs to always be assumed in safety analysis. I can only aasume this will change after this incident

Plane was switched to a different run way and did a little turn that brought it into the black Hawks flight path

The new runway was shorter than the original runway and so the planes descent was likely steeper than if they’d landed on the original run way- again, bringing it into thr Blackhawk path at the worst moment

Plane and Blackhawk were talking to the same controller but on different frequencies so couldn’t hear each other or gain any sort of awareness that way

Blackhawk pilots likely had on night vision goggles which significantly reduces one’s field of vision and with city lights was probably distracting rather than helpful

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Whelp, if ATC telling them the jet and runway two or three times and then to go around the landing plane can't help the Black Hawk then they need to be grounded during 6am to 12 midnight around Wash DC.

There already were many stop gaps: Radar, Navs, ATC directions and warnings, 3 people in the helo looking around or piloting, maintenance checks every time, jet had blinking wing lights to land plus landing floodlight, laminated Zone 1 flight requirements in the helo and route book, etc.

I am curious if the CRJ, at any point of landing, was told there was a Black Hawk traveling south on an intersecting route, albeit at different altitudes.

I feel experienced pilots would have aborted the landing based on that alone. [b]Just general untrust of part-time military pilots or cowboy mentality.[/b] [/quote]

Straight up bs. Your assumptions about military pilots are ignorant. Cowboy mentality? You watch too many bad movies. [/quote]

Where’s the hours and flying frequency of Army BH pilots versus navy, marine and Air Force BH pilots? [/quote]

Key point of differentiation. Navy and AF has the best and most experienced, focused pilots. They don’t run their active Blackhawk programs like reserves programs. Many had pilot licenses before plus were IPs out of the gate upon joining. [/quote]

What’s the difference in training between Navy and Army active duty helicopter pilots? These were active duty Army pilots, not reserve.  But yeah- something is going wrong in the training/selection process. [/quote]

Prob diff in class hours, briefing sessions, and hours in the air, per year. Military brass would know the programs.

Pearl Harbor f15s go up at 9:30am every single day. Same pilots. [/quote]

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