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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]PP, if your contention is that men sometimes lust, yes, they do, and probably no more in Muslim cultures than any other culture.

But as I said earlier, hijabi women are trying to prevent the sin of gazing, which is far less egregious than lusting. So it would follow that, yes, they are also trying to prevent lust.

The goal is to try to prevent the unfortunate and undesirable wanton sexual behaviors that are corrosive to society.

Both men and women are commanded by God in the Quran to "lower (their) gaze" but women wear hijab to prevent sin, their own as well as mens. Wearing the hijab reminds women, also, that they should control themselves.

Western society with it's linear equality ideology has deemed it shameful that a woman should have to take on the burden of covering herself to help maintain a moral society. Muslims feel no shame with this. What is the alternative? [b]A society where men do lust openly and women do satisfy their lust, such as what we often have in western societies. [/b]

The Quran doesn't mention a woman needs to cover her hair, but if a woman chooses to embrace hijab for modesty reasons, more power to her.[/quote]

This just gave me the giggles.  Men and hijabi, even niqabi women are having extramarital sex all over the place in Muslim countries, they just hide it (you know, like hypocrites).  [/quote]

Actually, there are lot of teenagers/college students who take up the hijab because they think their parents will suspect them less of engaging in the behaviors they are actually engaging in.  My husband's female cousins in the Middle East who are attending university there maintain that the most promiscuous girls are hijabis.  Obviously, not fact, just an observation of a couple of people.[/quote]

Yes, and your husband's female cousins are the perfect bell weather for female Muslim behavior. [/quote]

I am Middle Eastern (not Muslim) and I have countless anecdotal examples of Muslims being more promiscuous than they want anyone to know.  My uncle was a urologist in an urban area and many Muslim families came to him requesting that he "restore" their daughters' hymens, thinking he would be sympathetic as a Middle Eastern person.  He was not.  My cousin, a doctor in the Middle East, has had to deal with the repercussions of many botched abortions by Muslim ladies who either were having affairs they did not want their husbands to know about, or ladies who were not supposed to be having sex in the first place.  I, personally, have known many Muslim girls who felt a lot of pressure but did not behave as their families wanted them to.  A conservative culture that encourages people to wait until marriage is not necessarily a problem, it's the completely insane over-reaction to what women wear, lust, "gazing," and extra-marital sex that is problematic.  And it is positively silly that Muslims in the West then turn around and act like "wanton" sexual behaviors are "corrosive" to society, or that hijabs are magically preventing people from having extra-marital sex, when many Muslim societies are crazily falling apart in every sense of the word.  It's called hypocrisy.[/quote]

+1. Just go to Morocco and meet the lovely hijabi prostitutes. So pious! [/quote]

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