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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Yeah, each family will be assigned a counselor, a life coach and tutors in every subject.  And maybe a librarian who will visit them daily and read outlaud to the child. [/quote]

And while you work on mocking whole groups of people, consider reading your post 'outlaud' to yourself.[/quote]

I didn't read that poster's response "outlaud," but I re-read it, and to me it seems a reasonable response to a proposal for mandated "wrap around services."  What kind of cost are we talking about here, and who would qualify, and how?[/quote]

Exactly. I live in Fairfax county, and [b]I'm not sure why I should have to pay for wrap-around services for some poor [/b]in a place that's more than 5 miles from where I live. Sure poverty has costs, but I'm pretty much insulated from them. So what's in it for me?[/quote]

Because you don't want to pay the cost of social services for them later? Don't want them breaking into your house or knocking you over the head to steal from you? Because the prisons are expensive and overcrowded (and also paid for by you?)[/quote]

Right, but I'm not going to pay the cost of social services for them. That's why we structure our social services (housing, school, etc...) at the hyper-local level. So that me and my neighbors are insulated from any social or financial costs of national, state, and local policies that perpetuate poverty. [/quote]

Well then what are you worried about, exactly?  Sounds like everything is peachy in your little bubble.

Ohhhh.  You're worried about the poors coming into your bubble.  [/quote]

PP is obvs playing devil's advocate. Lighten up. PP's point is that hyper-localization of school and other neighborhood amenity funding, combined with segregation due to real estate prices, hampers efforts to build political consensus around helping the poor. This is 100 percent correct. The wealthy have been able to build walls around ther enclaves, literally and physically, [b]so they are insulated from the externalities of poverty, like crime[/b].

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You can't seriously believe this, right?  What about the AU grad who was stabbed to death riding metro on a holiday weekend?  What about the other AU grad who was shot to death coming out of a metro stop.  [/quote]

yes, I seriously believe this. It's one of the major obstacles to building any kind of political support for policies that help the poor. Neither of those AU grads was wealthy, based on publicly available information. The average wealthy person doesn't spend a lot of time in Shaw or use public transit, newsflash. People who live in McLean and work in Tysons have successfully eliminated their risk of harm from impoverished DC residents. This was my point. Happens all over the country.
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But this is a forum about [b]DC Public and Public Charter Schools.[/b] In DC, there are million dollar homes across the street from public housing - and yes, people are buying them, living in them and sending their kids to neighborhood schools.  [/quote]

I'm PP, yes, I am aware of that, I am one of them. Well, ok, no public housing literally across the street, but same basic idea. But that doesn't change the fact that most people who can afford to do so, will buy or rent so as to minimize poverty and crime nearby, and if they are able to do that, then they are insulated from the impacts of poverty and less likely to support policies that help the poor, and especially less likely to support school integration because heck, they just paid an extra $200k on their house to avoid it.  There are relatively few of us who make the choice to live in an urban place and send kids to urban schools when we could afford "high ranked" schools. To borrow your phraseology, do you seriously not believe this?

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