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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]It is a fact that catholics are not taught about the bible in any depth,  It is also a fact - a well known fact in and out of the church - that the catholic church does not condone divorce.[/quote]

Fine. What you say may indeed be true. So perhaps what Muslima has said about her own belief system may also be true. Why can you not accept that her statements about Islam may indeed be true also? [/quote]

These debates *were* often about facts, and you and Muslima presented incorrect facts that led to pages of discussions. Here are some "facts" that you and Muslima presented....
- Muslima said, simply, "Islam treats women captives well." 
- You or Muslima claimed that more people are converting to Islam than immigrating. 
- Muslima claimed Islam gave women the vote 1400 years ago.
- you and Muslima argued for dozens of pages that the word "equal" applies to Islam's women even if they have unequal divorce, inheritance and other legal rights. 
- you and/or Muslima don't follow Hadith.

Some of these are wrong as "facts" and some of these are your opinions but were never presented as such.

For example, 
- you were proved definitively wrong on you claim about converts, in fact 100k Muslim immigrants come here every year, vs. a sketchy and probably exaggerated figure of 25k converts, and no data whatsoever on the people we know leave Islam every year.
- how the word "equal" should be defined is your opinion. Still, both of you contine to make sweeping, unqualified statements about how women are "equal." Moreover, neither of you  ever qualifies this as your personal view, to the point where it seems like you're deliberately trying to mislead readers who may not be familiar with Islam's divorce and inheritance laws.
- I think one of you even conceded that what happened 1400 years ago wasn't women's suffrage, it was a loyalty oath. Others here see this as a purity pledge that applies to women but not to men
- you and Muslima were proved wrong about how Islam treats women who are captured. No debate that they become slaves, but you or Muslima claimed they were freed upon pregnancy. No, you're wrong, proof was provided that she is freed upon her master's death.
- it's your choice whether or not to follow hadith, but you certainly don't speak for millions of other Muslims.  Are you kidding?

So, you guys made lots of sweeping statements about your faith that you presented as absolutes, but which were flat-out wrong. You presented other claims as absolutes, such as "Muslim women are equal to men" which, arguably, were very much your opinions and not shared by all Muslim women let alone shared by non-Muslims.[/quote]

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