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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Speechless -

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2026-05-27/uc-math-professors-demand-return-of-sat-for-stem-admissions

Over three years — from fall 2021 to fall 2023 — the letter said, at least 20% of Berkeley first-semester calculus students who took a diagnostic exam showed deficits. “Basic mathematical fluency is analogous to literacy; without it, success in university-level STEM becomes structurally unattainable for students,” faculty wrote.[/quote]

What is making you speechless? Calc 1 isn't exactly an advanced course.[/quote]

Speechless because what do those students expect to do if they CANNOT do calculus in a STEM program. The only next exit is non-STEM, that totally defeats their original intention to attend these programs. These are ripple effects. I would have a lot of doubt hiring the students coming from compromised curriculum if schools are forced to dumb down their curriculum to accomondate.[/quote]

Not everyone needs to be able to do calculus you know.

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STEM majors especially need to know how to do calc.[/quote]
Trained biologist and have never used calculus a day in my life.[/quote]

Ok. You reminded me the merchant I encountered in the farmers market. While the poor folk struggle to figure out the changes using calculator, I just rounded up for the poor fellow.
It is the way of thinking matters. Without foundation and solid mathematical training, your number sense is impaired. Science is not imagination. Good luck for you.
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Thank you for explaining science to a scientists. Anyway, back to the point, never used calculus a day in my life. There's mathematics i do need, such as statistics, so I can validate findings, but I am not an applied statistician, so the calculus? out the window.[/quote]

So?  Most STEM majors need math.  [/quote]

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