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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Here's some on incomes in DC. https://www.dcfpi.org/all/inequality-remained-extreme-in-2024-as-dc-backslid-on-poverty/

The median income of $60,591 for Black households (statistically unchanged from 2023) was just over one-third of the $168,800 median household income for white, non-Hispanic households (also statistically unchanged from 2023).

The discussion about middle class families is interesting, because it seems to depend on what income levels make you 'middle class.'  The poverty line here is supposedly in the $30K range. So $60K median puts black families in that range. The white household median income puts them in the top quarter of household income in the U.S. (above $165K).[/quote]

I would consider 60k on the lower end of middle class especially if it was a one-parent household. I'd consider 168k on the upper end of middle class. Also those are just medians, so there are plenty of people on either side. Which means plenty of black families with an HHI above 60 and plenty of white families with an HHI under 168k, and I would consider most of the families in between as middle class. That's also all households, not limited to households with kids, which is a wildcard and it's hard to know how that would change these numbers.

I am very confused by the arguments on here that there are very few middle class families in DCPS. It seems transparently false, based on both the statistics and my personal experience. Like I'm still reeling from the person who posted the they believe the "median" income for families at their Ward 6 elementary is 300k, which I actually do not think is possible even at a school like Maury or Brent where yes there does tend to be a higher percentage of wealthy parents. If there are people who really believe that, it is absolutely impacting the culture of the school and the way an integrated (racially and socioeconomically) school will operate. [/quote]

There are a ton of trolls on this thread, like the one insisting that there are $7mil and lots of $5mil houses in bounds for Janney, even though a quick google search disproves that silliness.[/quote]

Technically Key and Mann here, but same difference:

https://www.redfin.com/DC/Washington/2927-44th-St-NW-20016/home/113744981

https://www.redfin.com/DC/Washington/5070-Millwood-Ln-NW-20016/home/9943109

https://www.redfin.com/DC/Washington/4869-Glenbrook-Rd-NW-20016/home/9946672

https://www.redfin.com/DC/Washington/4433-Cathedral-Ave-NW-20016/home/9956065[/quote]

How is this relevant? People living in such expensive places do not use DCPS. [/quote]

+1 I work for a large law firm in DC. The partners making the kind of money that would enable them to buy one of these house universally send their kids to private school OR live in a select few suburban districts, not DCPS.

The only lawyers that send kids to DCPS at my firm are associates, but they don't make enough to afford houses like that. They might one day, and if they do, they will move their kids to private.

The Venn diagram is two separate circles. DCPS and public charters are for poor to upper middle class people, and everyone in between. But not wealthy folks.[/quote]

There are quite a few kids of law firm partners at our local Hill ES. If you live on the Hill, most big name private schools are not worth the commute in ES and lots of (even wealthy) folks think CHDS isn’t worth the difference for ES, especially if you have multiple kids. Maybe it’s different if Beauvoir is next door?

Now I agree that those kids are not heading to SH, and certainly not to EH or Jefferson, but elementary school? They definitely are.[/quote]

I think there are lots of very wealthy people sending their kids to Mann and Key, but they switch to private for middle and high school. I think the number of ultra high net worth families at JR, for example, is 0.[/quote]

You would be wrong.  We are a high net worth (7-figure HHI) family and have kids at JR and Deal.  We toured different private schools at various points in our kids’ education and have always found the public school kids to be just as impressive as their peers in the private schools.  We saw no reason to make the switch when our kids are happy and thriving where they are.  We are also big believers in public education and were uncomfortable with the idea of paying $50k a year when the main benefit seemed to be just making sure your kid was only around other rich people.  [/quote]

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