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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]There is zero chance Vance will be the nominee. Democrats should assume Ron DeSantis or Nikki Haley will be the Republican nominee - someone untouched by the Trump stench.

Democrats seem to assume the White House will fall into their lap in 2028. But DeSantis and/or Haley are going to be strong candidates. Both can very plausibly run as anti-Trump Republicans. And if Democrats don't come up with a good nominee, a lot of independents may break their way.

I am still not seeing a strong potential Democratic nominee who can easily beat DeSantis or Haley in Michigan, Pennsylvania, Georgia, North Carolina, Nevada and so on. And Democratic over-confidence has been a big problem. See Hilary Clinton and Kamala Harris.

There seems to be an assumption that since Gavin Newsom is a white man that fixes all the problem. But I am very confident Newsom will lose to DeSantis or Haley in the battleground states. Someone else needs to pop soon.[/quote]

Which part of Democrats outperforming their 2024 presidential margins consistently everywhere throughout the country is making [i]you[/i] so confident?[/quote]

Every election today is 100 percent about Trump, who is rapidly becoming the most unpopular president in modern history. Trump will not be on the ballot in 2028. [/quote]

Of course Trump will be on the ballot. How can you be so naive? That is truly the most ridiculous assertion I have heard in ages. Anyone who has ever worked in the Trump administration will be stained for the rest of their careers with the association and will put Trumo back on the ballot. But in 2028... [i]all[/i] Republicans are stained. Their quiet and complicity and constant support are all keeping Trump on the ballot. I have MANY independent and Republican family members who will tell you this. Trump has driven many people away.[/quote]

NP jumping in the argument. It’s a difference of opinion between you and the other poster.
Will Trump and a coalition be on the ballot?
OR, possibly..
Will we be post-Trump?

The second possibility could be to a large, or to a small, degree.[/quote]

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