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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]There is zero chance Vance will be the nominee. Democrats should assume Ron DeSantis or Nikki Haley will be the Republican nominee - someone untouched by the Trump stench.

Democrats seem to assume the White House will fall into their lap in 2028. But DeSantis and/or Haley are going to be strong candidates. Both can very plausibly run as anti-Trump Republicans. And if Democrats don't come up with a good nominee, a lot of independents may break their way.

I am still not seeing a strong potential Democratic nominee who can easily beat DeSantis or Haley in Michigan, Pennsylvania, Georgia, North Carolina, Nevada and so on. And Democratic over-confidence has been a big problem. See Hilary Clinton and Kamala Harris.

There seems to be an assumption that since Gavin Newsom is a white man that fixes all the problem. But I am very confident Newsom will lose to DeSantis or Haley in the battleground states. Someone else needs to pop soon.[/quote]

If, by chance, Vance is not the nominee then it will be Rubio. [/quote]

Neither Vance or Rubio will be the nominee. A big part of Trump's appeal to the white working class was the assumption that Trump will keep us out of stupid wars. But Trump 2.0 is the most belligerent presidency we've had in generations. And Rubio is an agent of that. Threatening an invasion of Greenland is not popular with the base. Nor is the endless support of Israel. Nor is destroying our relationships with traditional allies. Nor are all the tariffs that have raised prices on everything. Nor is sucking up to Putin. Nor is there popular support for our imminent attack on Iran. Plus, vets and service members absolutely despise Hegseth and all the culture war BS the Trump administration is imposing on the military. And Little Marco owns all of that.

By 2028, white working class Republicans will choose a clean break from Trumpism. Plus, being closely associated with Trump has never worked out well for anyone. The Republican nomination will almost certainly go to DeSantis, who very wisely has stayed far removed from Trump. And that is going to be a problem for Democrats if once again they choose a weak candidate. [/quote]

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