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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Bart D. Ehrman
Religion: Agnostic (formerly evangelical Christian)
Position: Explicitly affirms Jesus’s existence; considers denial of historicity a failure of historical method.

Paula Fredriksen
Religion: Jewish
Position: Strongly affirms Jesus as a historical Jewish apocalyptic preacher crucified by Roman authority.

Maurice Casey
Religion: Non-religious
Position: Forceful defender of Jesus’s historicity; wrote extensively rebutting mythicist arguments.

Géza Vermes
Religion: Jewish (born Jewish, converted to Catholicism under pressure from antisemitic persecution, later returned to Judaism)
Position: Affirms Jesus as a historical Jewish charismatic figure within Second Temple Judaism.

Michael Grant
Religion: Non-religious
Position: Rejects Jesus mythicism as historically indefensible using classical historical standards.

Gerd Lüdemann
Religion: Atheist (formerly Protestant)
Position: Accepts Jesus’s existence and crucifixion while rejecting resurrection and divinity.[/quote]

Grant might be the only non-religious historian here, but very little info about him.

The rest are all theologians and/or biblical scholars. Biased.

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Grant could have done an independent study but chose to rely primarily on the gospels as sources.

So not an independent analysis.

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So give people reasons to believe you over educated and published historians. Start with your CV so we can compare your qualifications to the people on that list.[/quote]

I haven’t made any claims.

I’m simply looking for an analysis by unbiased researchers using independent primary sources. 
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I am looking for a winning lottery ticket. You, PP, at least can get what you are "simply looking for" by looking yourself not repeatedly asking for shit to "challenge' others or "rebut" them. Your sell by date has passed I think.  [/quote]

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