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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]You're all wierdos if you're cutting off family due to politics.[/quote]

It’s way beyond politics. Anyone who is contributing to the demise of our democracy does not get my love or friendship, [/quote]

Still wierd, they're your family. After COVID with relatives lost, I'd never want to push anyone away.[/quote]

DP and I’m lucky that [b]my traditional conservative family members are intelligent and empathetic enough to have recognized the danger of the MAGA cult as of J6[/b], so I haven’t had to cut anyone out. They are now independents who don’t necessarily support all democrat political views, but they recognize the need to vote against falling into further authoritarianism.

But if your “political” views involve supporting a party who refuses to denounce slurs and Nazi/rape jokes because it’s just kids being kids, you are okay with masked ICE agents grabbing people off the street without a warrant or ID, and you think Charlie Kirk’s racist and misogynistic rants are some sort of intellectual commentary, then this goes deeper into your underlying morals.

And I find the morals of MAGA to be so abhorrent that I will protect my peace by not keeping them in my life (I have some friends/colleagues I’ve distanced myself from without any fanfare). Maybe they feel the same about me. I am confident in my values though that I am going whine about how stupid and mean it is if they cut me off. Good riddance.[/quote]

Similar. The few cousins that were conservative mostly recognized the harm of January 6. [/quote]

Same. I’m liberal married to a conservative. He’s been an independent since 2016. When the GOP nominated Trump, he left.  There’s nothing conservative, patriotic, or responsible about Trump.

The NRA members in our families canceled their memberships after Sandy Hook.

Normal conservatives exist and they are not a problem. [/quote]

Normal conservatives dont push for change which is why they're not a problem.

Actual nafionalists would be a problem.[/quote]

Would be? That IS the problem. MAGA aren’t conservatives, they’re  Christian Nationalists and White Supremacists.[/quote]

Trump is a Christian nationalist?  He's a white supremicist with Jewish kids/grand kids?

Sure there may be some of those people in MAGA, but I don't think the entire movement is as such.  It's not like MAGA has a party platform.

Actual nationalists would be far more extreme than MAGA.[/quote]

Trump is racist and fascist. But other than that, he’s nothing. He has no values at all besides greed and lust. He only cares about getting more money for himself. He’s using our government, and the executive branch, which he has staffed with white supremacists and Christian Nationalists to line his pockets. The groups are using each other.

Yes, MAGA are Christian Nationalists and White Supremacists. If you think white supremacy is all about Jewish people, you need to read up on the KKK and listen to all the anti-immigration talk coming out of this administration. [/quote]

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