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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I have a real-life HS student (not a 3rd grader) at a school where phones are officially banned. Kids still use them sparingly and the teachers generally overlook it.

I got a quick text this morning (between classes) saying that an after-school activity is cancelled, which is helpful for me to receive now so I can rearrange my schedule to pick the kid up several hours earlier.

If kid told me this at 2:30 it'd be a huge PITA.

Are the nasty PPs really so unimaginative that they can't think of [i]any[/] scenarios when phones would be helpful? GMAFB. 
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Okay, I actually would be okay with kids having flip phones.

We can get Tello with 500 text a month for $5, a flip phone is like what $50?  Maybe it would eh cheaper just to issue every student a school flip phone rather than pouch?

But that would probably be fine. [/quote]

1 minute text on smart phone vs 1 minute text on flip phone. No difference. 
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I have a bridge to sell you if you all think that kids will limit their phone usage to “1-minute texts to parents.” [/quote]

If they are shuffling between classes in a massive building there really isn’t that much time. You clearly don’t have HS kids in APS.

[b]Anyway, some whiny poster was asking for “just one reason” why kids might need their phones between classes[/b]. I gave one.

I support teachers who want to ban phones in their classroom, but I’m glad that my kid’s teachers aren’t so rigid; they are ok with kids sending a text every now and then between classes. 
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Actually, I'm that person and I asked why it was so critical - not why they might use it.
To explain what I mean by critical: so essential that the need cannot be met by another means. [/quote]

No one has found another mode that replaces it [/quote]

No, nobody has found a mode that equals its efficiency or sufficiently replaces it to your satisfaction. It seems very fortunate for you that you have not had to be a parent (or apparently a kid, either) in the time before cell phones since you seem incapable of anything less quick or convenient. These may be difficult times for you until your kid(s) are no longer in a school with a phone ban. I hope you can take comfort knowing it won't be forever and that there are indeed ways to survive it.[/quote]

I hope you take satisfaction in making my and many other kids and families lives a lot more difficult. For what?[/quote]

For the overall betterment of everyone else. I'm sorry you're not more creative or resourceful and able to handle it better. [/quote]

People can be plenty creative and resourceful when there is something worth doing. [b]100% ban is not worth doing. It just adds unnecessary complications for families with no added value.[/b] A stupid waste of time.

A quick text between classes is really no big deal. The way the policy is written, kids will just get a warning if they get caught sending a quick text to mom or dad. That works. 
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Disagree.  100% ban super clear, easy to enforce.  No phones.  Ever.  How are teachers/admins supposed to police your rule of the “quick text is really no big deal.”   What does that look like?  My way is what we lawyers and policymakers and economists and generally anyone who went to grad school call as bright line rule.  You know why we love these?   Cause everyone understands them and they are super easy to enforce.   
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I know many of you struggle with this, but I trust teachers. They can use their best judgment.

The flexible phone ban is good because the expectation is that phone are generally away, but there is also the flexibility if something comes up.

When I was in grad school we did a lot of sensitivity analysis. It was all about dealing with nuance. 
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Good, we agree.[b] Teachers all want the phones away all day[/b] so they don’t have to police them at the start of EVERY class. [/quote]

As a baseline, sure. But most are understanding when something comes up. They aren't all so rigid. 
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