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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Condos mean more people in a given area. Which means more bars and restaurants. Which means more people want to live there. Which drives up the prices of those condos. Which drives up the prices of houses developers need to buy and tear down in order to build more condos. Which means even more people in a given area. Which means more bars and restaurants, which means more people want to live there, which drives up the prices even further. People understood intuitively before we changed the term “gentrification” to “upzoning.”[/quote] [b]There isn’t a coherent explanation of how changing zoning laws reduce housing prices. [/b]Typically the opposite happens — prices go up, by a lot. [/quote] There is, and it's based on supply and demand. Just like "gentrification" and "upzoning" are different things, so "there is no explanation" and "I don't like the explanation" are different things, too.[/quote] So what’s the explanation? [/quote] https://googlethatforyou.com?q=housing%20zoning%20supply%20demand[/quote] ‘If you can't explain it to a six year old, you don't understand it yourself.’ —Albert Einstein[/quote] Very weird that no one can explain how upzoning reduces housing prices[/quote] If upzoning doesn’t reduce housing prices, then what is the point of upzoning?[/quote] more people have homes[/quote] Not really. Upzoning just means more housing for childless adults and a lot less housing for people with kids, and a whole lot less housing for larger families. What's the point of pushing out people with multiple kids? That seems like a stupid goal. [/quote] Even If upzoned units dont fit families (which they can) then those individuals are not competing with families for other units: more people have homes.[/quote] So you want property taxes for to go up? This will not help with promoting affordable housing. Higher property taxes will increase the monthly cost to own a home and raise rents. Each quadplex will create about 2 new students and the property tax revenue from a quadplex might not even cover the cost of providing schooling for these kids. Then the county still needs to spend another 30k+ a year to pay for everything else with these quadplex residents. None of this 30k is covered by property taxes; the sales taxes and income taxes will not come over the rest of it. [/quote] Are you the same guy telling me upzoned units will be for childless adults? But now we have more kids in the county thanks to upzoning? I'm not worried we will be able to have more population and kids in our county.[/quote] That is a different people. I don’t agree with the statement that new quadplexes will have no kids in them. Each quadplex will generate around 1.81 students. There needs to be some balance in this discussion. You may not be worried about population growth at all, but the county cannot afford to mess up this zoning change up. YIMBY’s completely ignore how this will impact schools, property taxes and naïvely act like density is a solution to everything. It will cost the county money to do this so there needs to be a discussion about it MOCO can afford to do this and how much should the county spending on subsidizing tax negative housing development to promote affordable housing. The county does not have unlimited money and most of its operations are funded directly through local property taxes/income taxes. [/quote] If MOCO can afford*[/quote]
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