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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Biden gave us competent administration, turned our economy around and restored our reputation abroad - but he didn't give us sunshine and rainbows. Therefore I'm voting third party to stick it to the man.[/quote]I can't vote for Biden because he supports racial equity which requires racial discrimination.  He also supports males with a mental disorder over females 8n Title IX which is illiberal and insane.   As the father of daughters, I can't vote for someone who does this.[/quote]

Biden has not shoved a women into the wall and sexually assaulted her and been required to pay significant damages so I think the choice is pretty clear for anyone with daughters,  or sons.[/quote]

Trumps kids are Ivy educated and healthy. Biden is a failure in every area.[/quote]

Trump shoved a women against the wall and sexually assaulted her.  Having him represent our daughters is a disqualifying insult.  I don't think you actually have daughters.[/quote]I can stand Trump but let's not pretend that Sniffy Biden is much better.  He also wants to change Title IX to allow males with a mental disorder equal access to women's spaces including sports.  That's not just insulting, it's dangerous, illiberal, and discriminatory toward real women.[/quote]

Get a new political consultant already.  You all have been trying too hard with that trans stuff for how many elections now?   It is not working for you.  No one cares.   Come to us when a rape allegation sticks to Biden in court like it has for your hero pu**y grabber.

You do have the let's be represented by a rapist vote locked down.  I will give you that.[/quote]I'm a Democrat.  And I have daughters.  We live in an area (Montgomery Co., MD) that allows males to play girls' sports and use their bathrooms and locker rooms as long as they say they are girls which is simply insane.  Bastardizing the very law that helped women and girls gain so much ground over the past  50 years to accommodate men with a mental disorder is bonkers.[/quote]

You may be one of the few voters where that is your big issue.  You are entitled to that.   Just saying it is just not a big issue for most in the scheme of things.  And it is not for lack of the gop trying.

But  I am fine if that is where they focus their resources because it doesn't work.  But keep at it.  Helps the Dems [/quote]As a Dem, I'd rather see us tell leftists to go pound sand.  If we embraced working class people and focused on economics rather than identity politics, we'd never lose another election again.  Even with all his woes, Trump is ahead of Biden is a fair number of polls which is not good.[/quote]

If anyone has told working people to go pound sand in terms of wages, health insurance and healthcare, drug prices along other issues it is the GOP.

[/quote]I don't care about the GOP.  I'm talking about how to fix our party so we never lose to the Rs again and getting rid of identity politics would go a long way in doing that.  Somehow we let terrible illiberal leftist ideas like gender ideology and equity infect our party and it's losing a lot of votes for us.[/quote]

We have to agree to disagree.   It is the  GOP that courts racist, sexist, homophobic, anti-science, voters.  [/quote]Sorry but leftism is racist, sexist, and anti-science and they have too much influence on our party.  I and many other non-leftist Democrats have no way to influence Republicans other than voting against them.  That becomes increasingly difficult when my party supports illiberal laws and policies that would directly harm my family due to their sex and skin color. There are enough people who feel like me that Trump is in danger of winning in 2024.  I would like to see my party dump identity politics and go all in on economics.[/quote]

All the people among your family and friends that have been sexually assaulted, or are gay, or have had an abortion, or need birth control, or fertility treatments among situations, might appreciate the Dems fighting for their protection and rights.   You may not even know how many family and friends you have in these groups but you have them.[/quote]You must be a bot.  But cause you're not responding to what I'm saying.  You're vomiting up anti-Republican talking ponts even though I said I am a Democrat.  I support everything you said AND I don't want my daughters subjected to naked males in the locker rooms and bathroom or on their sports teams.  As a moderate, liberal Democrat, I'd like all of these things.  You are stuck on D vs R.[/quote]

You are stuck on d vs d which just helps r.  R is too big a threat at this moment to invest in d on d fighting.[/quote]False. I want us to make our tent bigger by telling extremists no. I think we could pull 15% of the middle back to us by telling the farthest left 5% no.  For an example of the opposite, Biden carried VA by like 10 points but after McAuliffe inserted identity politics into his campaign, a horrible Youngkin won in those same districts by 10 points just a year later.  That tells us that normal, liberal Democrats don't like extreme leftism.[/quote]

Youngkin?  Don't waste your time fretting about youngkin.  He just got a whole lot of nothing from the voters in 2023 for all his energy and money.  He is done.[/quote]I'm not worried about Youngkin.  I'm worried about the DNC leaning harder into extreme identity politics that alienate non-leftists.  My comment about Youngkin was only to illustrate how someone (McAuliffe) can go from a slam-dunk win to a loss by embracing leftist insanity.[/quote]

You are not a Dem screw off.

Youngkin is done

No that is not the reason Youngkin won and McAuliffe lost . Youngkin lied gaslighted and was in  general playing of false fears

Voting red for any republican is insane at this point. [/quote]A man wearing a wig and a skirt tells you he's a woman and you'll believe him but a man who is t a leftist tells you he's a Democrat and you don't?  This is progressivism folks.  These lunatics are going to get Trump elected again.[/quote]

The Democratic establishment got Trump elected, everything else is noise.[/quote]

That's right.

Trump is the legacy of Obama. [/quote]

And Hillary and Joe Biden and Bill Clinton and Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer and…you get the idea.

That those names haven’t all received serious reconsideration after Trump speaks volumes about the actual interests of the Trump obsessed. That crew above got very rich while shrinking the Democrats margins, they need a critical eye applied to them if you really want to defeat Trump and similar forces.[/quote]

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