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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]ATS should mandate 2/3rds of slots for lower socioeconomic and minority students, similar to how Montessori does their prek. I have no problem with ATS existing or being a home for attentive parents. But it should favor disadvantaged every step of the way. And, please don't tell me it's FRL rate is similar or better than other schools, that is truly irrelevant. It's FRL needs to be twice the worst neighborhood school, and it's student demographics needs to flip the stats of U.S. public. Then you know it's really serving those who need it in our society. [/quote]

ATS parent. I support setting aside more K-5 slots for FRL families.

Btw Montessori pre-k uses that model but the elementary school  has a lower FRM rate than ATS. [/quote]

Colleges can’t even set aside spots based on race. But public elementary schools can?[/quote]

Who said race? This is FRL. [/quote]

There are white kids in the VPI classes.[/quote]

Right, but PP said minorities. Reading comprehension, people. No wonder our kids are struggling.[/quote]

Oh sorry, did that disadvantaged argument strike a nerve? You people smell of fear.  Like maybe your free country day  school might actually get redirected to people who really need it. Love it. [/quote]

Huh? My kids don’t even go to ATS. Just saying you can’t fill a school based on race.[/quote]

Well, that’s not true.  How do you think our schools became (and remain) so segregated?  It’s not an accident.  [/quote]

Housing policy (historically) and home prices (currently).

I’m not saying they aren’t segregated. I’m saying APS can’t make a policy that states certain schools must be x percent POC. Universities can’t even do that.

Should there be a greater mix demographically in our schools? I want there to be. Though realistically, how do they do that? Bus kids all over town? And what happens when even more families leave for private school? Take a look at Alexandria. It isn’t so pretty.[/quote]

The Ashlawn boundary is contiguous to Carlin Springs and Barrett.  Innovation has been “picked” to be the North Arlington future school for massive amounts of affordable housing, yet you have Science Focus about a mile up the road and one metro stop away.  Would you consider adjusting those boundaries too radical?  It wouldn’t require a “bus all over town.”  I don’t think most people are aware how blatantly segregated the boundaries are in some instances.  It cannot be reasonably explained away.[/quote]

Are you in favor of eliminating the wrap-around services some of these title I schools offer? Spread the poor kids out between different high-performing schools, dropping them at the door and saying “good luck”?

I’m not sure what the answer is, but I know APS doesn’t have the resources to offer some of those services at EVERY school.[/quote]

APS and Title 1 aren’t funding those services. The county pays for most of the wraparound services, the stuff like free glasses and social workers. The funding follows the kids, so move them around and the $$ and services follow them. PTAs offer some of the other resources, like donations to holiday or food drives and scholarships to after school activities, so a wealthier PTA with fewer needy kids could provide more for each individual student. There’s a lot of research out there if you want to learn about the affects of poverty on schools, and about how it’s really detrimental for poor kids to be in majority low income schools and neighborhoods. It’s neither here nor there. APS will never do anything about it and often they make it worse when they “adjust” contiguous boundaries because it’s the last consideration on their list, when it should be first. It’s the thing that has the most bearing on education, with tons of evidence and research out there. I am not aware of the same level of research into how alignment affects student outcomes (hint: it doesn’t). [/quote]

+100
Title I does provide class size caps that are currently lower than APS' limits. It also provides things like free books through RIF -- something wealthier PTAs could assume responsibility for and then some. It may also help with more staffing requirements, but I'm not sure. APS will tout the critical importance of the extra funding Title I provides (justifying the concentration of poverty in a few schools); but then give answers like Barbara Kanninen did many years ago when asked about potential Title I funding cuts from the Feds: title 1 funding is such a small portion of the budget, it really doesn't make a difference.  Which is it, then? Like everything else, it's a convenient excuse or irrelevant as suits the argument at the time.[/quote]

Good points, also Title 1 funding in APS only goes to elementary schools, and schools have told me the worst place to be is just below qualified.  It translates to extra staff.  [/quote]

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