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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]This singer and the fans of his song are emblematic of multiple generations of white, uneducated people who cannot compete in the modern world.

These people are some of the most entitled people in the history of mankind. Despite having a 200 year head start, they are still moping about how everything is going to hell. Meanwhile, immigrants routinely come to this country from Asia and rocket their families into the upper income tier within a generation because they value education.  This is just a sad song for lazy losers to drown in their misplaced victimhood.[/quote]

Nailed it. Welcome to the Trump base. [/quote]

And what does it tell us about the blacks that have been here for centuries longer?[/quote]

There were laws in place to oppress and take any wealth generated by blacks. The poor white are poor because they are lazy.[/quote]

LOL. No black person is poor at this moment in time because of laws in place more than half a century ago. If you think the average white person is benefiting from some kind of generational wealth, you need to get out more.[/quote]

Inhabitants of the DC provincial bubble do need to get out more, but good luck telling them.[/quote]

Gosh. If only this had ever been studied?

https://budgetmodel.wharton.upenn.edu/issues/2021/12/17/inheritances-by-race#:~:text=Across%20all%20age%20groups%2C%20White,average%2C%20differs%20slightly%20by%20race.

Oh. Wait. [/quote]

"Across all age groups, White households on average inherit about $15,000, about five times more than Black families and over six times more than Hispanic families"

In other words, it's Hispanics who could be whining...but instead they are working hard and getting ahead. Same as any minority group or person who wants.

Don't be so openly racist.[/quote]

In other words, all of the yammering you and your buddies do about how Black people have no disadvantages against poor White people is, on average, $12,000 wrong.

That’s the difference between having a car payment and a paid off car. Or a paid for Associates vs a student loan. In other words, life changing money for many. [/quote]

(DP) That survey also says that the probability of receiving an inheritance at all for all people is between 2.4 and 11%, so this seems to be a lot of focus on a very small number of people who might actually receive an inheritance. It really should not be generalized to the full electorate. Also, if the 5% of wealthiest people were eliminated from the survey, or even just the 1%, the averages would be very different.[/quote]

It never ends though. A property in a predominantly white community is more valuable than an identical property in a predominantly black community. That is true anywhere in America. The schools aren’t equal. The black homeowner in a black neighborhood probably has a lower credit rating and higher interest rate. The white-owned house in the white-neighborhood with the majority white school appreciates rapidly in value. The black-owned house in the black neighborhood with the majority black school may not appreciate at all. [/quote]

Now you’re just making stuff up to serve your own bias.

If property in a white community is more valuable than a predominantly black community then why is real estate in NE DC more expensive than most places in west virginia? A white working class family in Hagerstown, MD would see zero real estate appreciation while a black family in Shaw could sell for hundreds of thousands more than 20 years ago. [/quote]

Sigh. You’re not thinking about this objectively because you’re so busy trying to feel like you’re a victim.

Yes, some black neighborhoods have appreciated more than some white ones.

However, black families were explicitly denied the right to buy houses in the kind of neighborhoods which have seen the largest (not large, largest) growth in prices. What do you think the impact of those laws were?

And, when they were forced by those laws into housing purchases in areas which have absolutely not appreciated, what impact do you think that has had on the ability to amass generational wealth?

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Most immigrants arrive without any generational wealth and do well in just 1-2 generations.

There are much more important factors at play than whatever happened 3-4-5 generations ago.[/quote]

Not only do they typically arrive without generational wealth, but they are often learning to speak English. [/quote]

Blacks arrived here as slaves. They could not accumulate wealth. After they were freed laws denied them equal opportunity, the state oppressed them, terrorist organizations attacked them, any wealth accumulated was taken from them, etc. There is no comparing a slave vs someone who immigrant here. [/quote]

There has been tremendous change.  Blacks haven't been slaves for 150 years.  Blacks haven't been subjected to laws denying them equal opportunity for 50 years.  There are many black families that recognized this and took advantage of every new opportunity handed to them and became part of the middle class and upper class.  Similarly, black immigrants are able to take full advantage of every opportunity in our country and rapidly become part of the middle and upper class.  But others are still mired in the past, held back by imaginary barriers that do not exist for other blacks, continually blaming history and everyone else rather than living in the present and seizing the opportunities and making a better life for themselves.

The exact same happens with whites, whether in Appalachia, the rust belt and so on.  Some saw the writing on the wall, the big coal mine closing, the steel mill closing, hundreds of jobs lost, so they picked up and found a new opportunity.  But others stayed and became mired in the past, thinking that rather than them keeping up with changes in the world, somehow the world needs to slow down and change back to the way it was for them.  It just doesn't work that way.

And, these disaffected communities consider themselves to be fighters but the sad part is that they picked the wrong fight, the right fight was to keep up and stay relevant rather than fighting change and expecting the arc of the universe to bend around them.  So now all they have left is to lash out in their own self-defeating and self-destructive ways.[/quote]

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