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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]As someone with a PhD from the Ivy League who taught the undergrads, I can assure all the people saying this guy is a dime a dozen are mistaken. There are so many morons who slip through the cracks of the Ivy League admissions system that it's shocking. I think about 10% of folks in classes I taught probably shouldn't have been in college at all. Others were ver mid, reminiscent of a typical state school student. The fact this guy got rejected by so many schools is entirely indicative of anti Asian racism imo[/quote]

There are tons of students that have these stats who get rejected - not just Asian. I know a handful, myself. I would imagine those like me also know a (different) handful.  It is not as "uncommon" as you would like to believe. Same as it is not "uncommon" to have advanced degree/s from ivy/MIT/top universities in this geographical area (and a few other geographical areas). Just as so many on DCUM are "professors" (usually adjunct) - also a dime a dozen. It has nothing to do with being Asian, but it is a hot topic right now, so someone is trying to draw attention to it.

American Universities have a specific mission to NOT contain one ethnicity of student. In fact, we fought more than one war over this same type of thing. Just drop it. [/quote]

Well I am not an adjunct. I am a tenured professor at a top 50 research university. And my point was that the insane push toward ethnic diversity and diversity of other types has to a large extent pushed great students out of our schools. At no point in my post did I say it is NOT common for someone of this kid's stats to get rejected. If you read what I wrote, I said he is not a dime a dozen compared to students who get ADMITTED. The students who are admitted include a very large group idiots. If you don't think rejecting highly intelligent people and admitting idiots is a problem, then I don't think I'm interested in talking with you [/quote]

NP--No top 50 research university is admitting idiots. They may be admitting some very smart students who aren't super interested in learning or who have addictions or mental health issues that keep them from showing you their potential, but they're not idiots.[/quote]

Yes, they are.

You'd be surprised how dumb kids are at top universities. I literally had to teach them as a TA while my spouse was an administrator for the same uni.

Kids so stupid they were incapable of setting up a bank account to collect their paychecks for campus work. Kids so stupid they couldn't do something as basic as submit hw in on time.  Kids so stupid they literally did not even know what DNA does by junior or senior year in a biomedical related program.  Kids so stupid at math they they were complete and abject failures at doing simple calculations for doing things like making solutions, or for figuring out concentrations.  So many kids at supposedly a top university struggling to do basic scientific notation and work with scientific units.  Yet when it came to test time they were OK because they could memorize answers.

There are a lot of dumb kids at top US universities. If you try to throw the a curveball on an exam for a question that requires actual critical thinking and for them to actually apply the knowledge they've supposedly learned to a problem they've never seen before, they meltdown, bomb, then all whine about the exam being too hard and the exam questions not being taught in class.  Zero critical thinking and problem solving skills these days.  Whether or not it is because they're admitting based on diversity rather than scholastic aptitude, I don't know, but the quality of students at top US university is often shockingly bad.[/quote]

These sound like heavily prepped kids who can’t figure things out on their own. They’ve been spoon fed the questions and answers to memorize so as to give the appearance of being smart. When a situation deviates from what they have prepped for, they are at a loss. 
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My spouse once encountered a student so stupid they called up the administration office to complain about the fact they they weren't getting paid for their campus work and could no longer afford food/rent.

What happened?

Fursr, this student was so stupid she couldn't figure out how to put on her big girl adult pants and setup a bank account for direct deposit.

Ok, NBD, the checks were mailed to her listed address for physical delivery. Strike number 2. The student was so stupid she took zero responsibilities about updating her address after she moved. All you need to do to change your address is simply update your student profile online, which takes 3 minutes.  So of course she's not getting her checks when they keep getting returned because no one knows where the hells she lived.

This student was also so stupid, that despite not getting paid for many weeks, she took zero initiative to investigate the problem with the employment office. Not even a single friggin' phone call. It wasn't until she was in crisis mode facing starvation and homelessness that it dawned on her that she might need to contact the student employment office to see what's up with her paychecks.  Of course the predictable happened where rocket genius student too stupid to setup direct deposit btiched out staff about her current predicament.

Yes, this was at a top 10 university, btw.  They let in a lot of dumb people these days.[/quote]

What a weird anecdote. Obviously there is a vast difference between being book smart and "life smart." Some of these kids are so helicoptered to death they can't function on their own.[/quote]

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