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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote]I'll make this easier on you. The well-documented history of how humans invented Santa provides the falsification you keep bleating about. [/quote] No, it doesn't. "no empirical test can establish that it is false". What empirical test can prove there is no Santa? I agree it is ridiculous to believe he is real, by the way, because there is no evidence he is. But the claim was he is provably false. That has not been shown, here or anywhere, by any empirical test. [quote]You can't see it because you've gone down a narrow semantic road that apparently rules out seeing anything in the way of documented historical proof. [/quote] This "narrow semantic road ", as you call it, is exactly how [b]you [/b]come to believe [b]everything else you believe except for your god[/b]. [/quote] Your argument is ridiculous. Have a nice day.[/quote] Pp's argument is not ridiculous, but that doesn't mean you have to accept it. Lots of intelligent people believe in God and continue to believe, even when presented with evidence. Religious belief is based on faith, not empirical evidence, as is well established, even in religions in whose leaders and adherents are [b]highly educated[/b].[/quote] After being indoctrinated. [/quote] Plenty of concerts to all the major religions. So we can ignore your lazy ad hominem.[/quote] From other major religions. Once you believe in one "god" it's easy to believe in another. [/quote] DP, but there are atheists, including people raised atheists, who convert to religious belief. I wouldn't expect that to convince you one way or another, anymore than I'd expect a Christian to be convinced by Christians becoming atheists, but the idea the only people who believe are the indoctrinated is wrong. There are people who [b]believe in God based on rational argument[/b], people who believe based on personal religious experiences, etc. The world's a big place with lots of different kinds of people in it.[/quote] Imagine the mental gymnastics it takes to rationalize supernatural forces. [/quote] Not so hard if a lot of other respectable people believe it too.[/quote] Atheist Tweedle Dee and Tweedle Dum are in their echo chamber today, I see. I hadn’t come on this forum in a few weeks and it’s because of these two being on here 24/7/365, emitting the most reductive and insulting arguments they can spew with the minimum number of key strokes. The moderator has declared this forum unusable. I propose we leave the forum to these two atheist trolls. They can high-five each other for the rest of their sad online lives. [/quote] It's well more than two. You are free to leave as you see fit, but as one of the "trolls", (i.e. those that disagree with you) I strongly suggest you do not leave and stay and engage. A recommendation: you'll do better if you avoid ad-hominem attacks and stick to the points made and responding to them on their merits.[/quote] Oh please. You just want someone to argue with. Reductive and insulting well describe your last few posts and much of the thread. Also, your behavior makes it impossible for anyone to take you seriously, with the result that you’re not convincing anybody. [b]The grownups have better things to do.[/b] [/quote] You say as you throw a tantrum. [/quote]
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