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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]All you folks talking about poorly behaved special needs kids are likely NOT parents of kids with unique needs, and you should consider yourself lucky.  Such holier than thou attitudes and a wholesale lack of empathy for kids.

No kid WANTS to behave that way.  Behaviors like that are expressing an unmet need.  Those kids are in a world a hurt and need support, possibly therapy or other tools.  It is not unlike a kid with dyslexia or even a physical disability.

Schools, SN kids, and resources were barely getting by pre pandemic and now we’ve got two years of no progress and more stress on everyone, especially those kids who were left behind.  And the learning loss amongst SN kids was far worse than most typical kids.

Rather than fault the kids, or the parents of those kids, start screaming at your school boards and their inane funding priorities.  Raise teacher salaries, invest in more SN instructional assistants and their training, more case managers and specialists.  Maybe something more than 1 BCBA for 25 schools would help… [/quote]

All people are saying is that those kids don't belong in the classroom with neurotypical kids.  It doesn't serve society well to help out one or two kids at the expense of 25 others.[/quote]

That is the fundamental gap.  They do belong in regular classrooms.  Remember back in the 60’s when kids in wheelchairs were sent to special schools, away from the “regular” kids?  Ruled unconstitutional.  Thank god for the ADA.  Same applies here hence the ‘least restrictive environment’ laws.  [/quote]

JUST STOP. NO ONE IS TALKING ABOUT WHEELCHAIRS OR DYSLEXIA AND YOU DAMN WELL KNOW THAT.

So freaking disingenuous.  :roll: [/quote]

DP- but it’s not disingenuous. There are standards for inclusion. You don’t know them (full stop. Clear from your post) don’t know the process for removal of a child from gen Ed, and so you don’t know what you are fighting against and certainly don’t have a well thought out alternative. [/quote]

Clearly not every child who is disruptive fits only certain disabilities. What about the kid with an intellectual disability who has a 1:1 who is placed in a mainstream class who shouts out constantly and gets deregulates and interrupts the class? According to your arbitrary standards is this kid OK but the adhd kid who is disruptive not? If you have a problem with inclusion choose to send your kid private. These children are human being and are not less then. Just different! [/quote]

Nobody is picking on your ADHD kid, PP. If any kid is constantly disrupting the class, then they are not a good candidate for mainstreaming. Intellectual disability, ADHD, or no diagnosis. It's about their behavior and the impact of their behavior on the classroom, and that's it. Kids and teachers need a safe environment conducive to learning. No child needs to be a perfectly compliant robot, but they also can't be "constantly" disrupting a class.[/quote]

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