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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Explain why Asians have to score higher than everyone else on the MCAT and have to have significantly higher GPAs than certain groups in order to get into medical school:

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It is literally using race to hold people to different standards.  Which is racism. [/quote]

There is not one school in the country that is saying Asians must have higher scores and GPAs in order to be admitted. Because that WOULD be racism. You're just making that assumption based on others with lower numbers being admitted. But the reason they're admitted is because they offer something else the college values, not because they're not Asian.[/quote]

If the thing that they offer is diversity, then the higher scoring students are being denied admission based on race. If this case goes the way people expect it to, those scores will either turn into acceptances next year or very expensive settlements [/quote]

Agree with you on what the Supreme Court will do, but not on the consequences. All these schools will go test optional (conveniently many are already there with Covid) and then the disparate racial standards will never be so clear and quantifiable again. No more lawsuits.[/quote]

PP posted MCAT scores. Medical schools will not go test optional. Some will stop trying to achieve a diverse class. Those that don't will start getting sued. [/quote]

Nah. There's lots of ways to achieve racial diversity besides the approach that we're currently using. If you create a point system for admission that makes MCAT 20% and  GPA 20% and "soft" qualities 60% you can pretty easily engineer a system that gets you the results you want.  You can select for race in lots of ways that don't specify race as long as you get granular enough.  You can select on zip code. You can select on extracurricular activities. You can select for particular types of leadership roles in particular groups.  You can require every student do a face to face interview or Zoom interview, and  make that 60% of the admission criteria.  [/quote]

This.  I don't see how this case will really change the make up of these admitted classes.  These colleges don't agree that high test scores are the most important criteria to consider in higher education so they are never going to just use that in building a class [/quote]

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