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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]You can't sell online ads or magazines if the rankings don't have some movement. It is helpful to look at the rankings data over time to get a sense of school tiers: https://andyreiter.com/datasets/ Colby hasn't historically been regularly ranked in the top 15. They've often been in the high teens and 20s so that drop isn't huge. Shocker: Columbia's real stats don't equate to being regularly ranked with Stanford, Harvard, and Yale![/quote] This was always clear to students, which is why Columbia was never able to attract HYPSM cross admits. [/quote] USNWR is influential, unfortunately, but there are limits. Princeton has been #1 for the past umpteen years, but it isn't winning cross-admit battles with Harvard, Stanford, and MIT.[/quote] Unless you want to be a D3 athlete, I don't see MIT winning too many cross-admit battles with those schools either. With MIT's limited excellence in eng, CS, and econ, their ranking always feels a little inflated. [/quote] Stanford would probably be better than MIT in all of those top areas too and is also great in just about every other discipline. [/quote] Not better in engineering and technology. Close, but not better. [/quote] Stanford would likely get the nod in CS and MIT in the other engineering disciplines. Even if it is just close in MIT's very strongest areas, I can see the point about Stanford pretty clearly being the better overall school. Most people who get into the two "Boston area" schools don't choose MIT either. With Harvard, I would give MIT the clear advantage in CS and engineering though. [/quote] For those who care about pure prestige and impressive name recognition (a lot of US News readers), Harvard and Yale can't be matched outside of Oxbridge, though Stanford and Princeton are getting there. Mass Tech and those perceived public universities in Chicago and Pennsylvania (Univ of __) aren't :-). [/quote] Stanford’s prestige is the same as Harvard’s—maybe greater.. [b]Oxbridge is not at Harvard or Stanford’s level; it’s more like Columbia or UCLA. [[/b]/quote] HAHAHA! Do you have any idea what it takes to get into Oxford? Do you know about the testing and the critical interviews? I do because DS went through it.[/quote]
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