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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Is the reason somebody is bumping ancient Christian-bashing threads to bury this thread about atheism’s sexual abuse problems?[/quote] Except you haven’t really proven your case there exists atheist sexual abuse problems. Also, nambla isn’t “for atheists” like the church is for “the religious”. Also, atheists aren’t a “religion”. I think you read too much conservative media. I’ve seen the conservative articles that try to frame atheism as a religion, so they sort of better categorize it, label it and discredit it, the same way people can about organized religion. Except atheists aren’t a monolithic block like say the Catholic Church. They’re just people who don’t believe in one of the thousands of different mainstream religions. So, no, dawkins, harris, nambla, are not good examples of people who “lead” atheism because there is no set leader like there is a pope for organized religion. You can’t pin it down so easily and it frustrates you. Atheists don’t care about your religion. They just want to be left alone from it. Organized religion, or at least many of them, have shown to harbor sexually repressed perverts. You can’t say the same about atheism because there is no repression. There are no dogmatic ideals that dictate that be “pious” and not have sex with another human like the church. That repression of sexuality leads to perversion as the multitudes of reports show.[/quote] Atheists like Silverman do run atheist orgs, and Dawkins and Harris are thought leaders who sell millions of books and attract many thousands of listeners to their lectures and online videos. You can’t possibly argue they have no influence. You just can’t hide behind, “hey, they don’t represent a ‘religion’ and they don’t run actual churches, so we can ignore them.” Also, atheists are on DCUM every hour of the day proselytizing for atheism and arguing with people of faith. If you guys didn’t proselytize, you’d have no reason to be here. [/quote] Are there specific, I mean actual presentable evidence of cases as seen with churches, of atheist molestations that you can present or is this all anecdotal evident? Also, where did these “atheist leaders” like Harris, Dawkins specifically cover up for the abusers like in the church’s? Did Harris and Dawkins specifically review these molestation and sexual perversions, like Christian church leaders did and specifically try to discredit the accusers and for the priests accused, simply shuffle them to other parish where they could molest kids again, or they sent them into retirement, where they faced no consequence. So beyond calling these atheist “thought leaders” (who are not actually leading or instructing a “flock” to actually do anything) perverts, where is your tangible evidence of molestation? Previous posts showed hundreds of thousands of church molestation and you produce zilch for atheist molestation other than broad accusations. I continue to be dumbfounded by the resoluteness of your, clearly, baseless assertions, but I can’t seem to stop trying to get you to actually prove something. Your posts are the informational equivalent of eating Doritos. They’re just empty calories with no nutrition.[/quote] Honestly, I continue to be dumbfounded by your refusal to contemplate the idea that Dawkins’ support for “mild” pedophelia, or Harris’ support for another prominent atheist accused of sexual abuse, would NOT have an impact on their millions of followers. It’s like you’re waving your hands about their influence on atheists. You have a rhetorical advantage exactly because atheism doesn’t have an organization that monitors abuse in its ranks or against which people can bring grievances and lawsuits. But to argue that “listeners” and “readers” aren’t influenced, because they’re not “members” of some group, is mind-boggling. It also reeks of dismissing the problem. [/quote]
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