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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I think Ukraine has about 45, so 98 is a huge addition.[/quote]

Wow, that's a huge infusion at the same time Russia is transporting in plumbing repair vans for reinforcement.[/quote]
It’s about two squadrons worth of MiGs (9.12 and a couple of UBs) that were due to be replaced anyway with F-16V.  It’s a great gesture for sure and I love how the Poles are leading NATOs response but let’s keep things in perspective.[/quote]

Poland put Biden in a tough spot.  Poland basically is saying step up America and do the deal out of Germany so we are all in this together.[/quote]

OK. So conduct the transfer in Moldova.

But get this done extremely quickly.  The Migs are desperately needed today![/quote]

The Poles are scared to do this and they have NATO backing.  Moldova would be nuts to agree to this.
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I really don't understand the reluctance for NATO countries though. [/b] They are opening providing billions in weapons to Ukraine.  I don't see how fighter jets crosses some line that they haven't already crossed.  I suspect the issue is more about whether the US can really replace the Polish MiGs in any timely fashion.  I doubt the US has a couple dozen F-16s just sitting around ready to send to Poland.[/quote]

because gutlessness and spinelessness of the Sheeple  are the definers of History just as much as it is shaped by megalomaniac dictators ( Hitler, Stalin )

The 21st Century has many modern advances, but in many ways it is a " wash and repeat " of the 20th century or the 18th century or the .... just pick.

Sickening to watch, isn't it.

PP is dead on: the time is ripe for ANY European country leader to step into this vacuum and become a world leader. Maybe the UK ... maybe Zelensky was invited to Parliament to prime the British public for what an ambitious Boris would like to do: seize all capital assets in the UK for UK treasury and restore the British Empire....AND keep practicing his Churhill hand gestures ...[/quote]

Reluctance...   it's the possibility of this war going nuclear.  At this point I'm not sure we can trust Putin to have the judgement to keep his finger off the button.[/quote]

The western countries don’t want nuclear war with Russia.  Sadly, if Ukraine is obliterated, it would still be a small percentage of the life lost and world devastation that a nuclear war would bring.  Hopefully neither happens and Ukraine can negotiate something with Russia.  They aren’t going to win a ground war, so they have to do something besides beg other countries to step in.  No one is going to, in any meaningful way.  [/quote]

Analysts have said it would take 500k Russian troops to actually occupy Ukraine.[/quote]

No it is closer to 880k and that is combat or police units. [/quote]

Russia will never successfully occupy the whole country of Ukraine.

Not even clear they can control any of the major cities for a prolonged period of time.

They can probably encircle and lay siege to a city long enough to kill people by starvation but not sure that is allowed by modern international law?  [/quote]

Nobody's worried about Putin invading Ukraine. He can't, unless he uses nuclear weapons, which we think he's not prepared to do. But we are all gravely concerned about the tens of thousands of civilians he is perfectly prepared to murder, with medieval tactics like sieges, simply because he cannot bear to lose face.

And what's that about "modern international law"? Are you stupid or 5 years old? In your wildest dreams, did Putin ever care about that? Hello?!?!?! He has perpetrated the same horrors in Chechnya and Syria, except that because it was on Muslims further away from Europe, nobody cared.
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But now the case for prosecution is being made.  Paperwork already filed.  
Putin and senior members of his regime would never be able to leave the country lest they face arrest and prosecution.[/quote]

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