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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]“I don’t see the issue. What is wrong with older students intermingling with the undergraduates. Older students bring life experience and different perspectives which can make class discussions more interesting and engaging.”

There is nothing wrong with it at all. But how much intermingling with transferred/non traditional students is acceptable when a rating system uses data from mostly accepted/matriculated 18 years olds to support its rankings.  This is where I have a problem with a school like Columbia who has  a huge percentage of their undergrads in the SGS taking classes alongside those from CC.  They are basing their eliteness at USNWR off those 18-year-olds and completely ignoring the 1/3 of the undergraduates who are not included in that data set. Is it  so hard to understand why this might be a problem? The SGS is not an extension school like the one at Harvard.  USNWR should clarify to its readers that this is not a typical practice at most elite schools.  On the contrary, it rewards Columbia for not reporting that it’s overall student body is more than likely NOT the caliber of SGS at Columbia is a special program for adults to received a BA as a separate degree from the College. They are two SEPARATE institutions at Columbia.

The real ivy league program with the 3.7% admissions this year ( and 5.1-6 % admissions in previous years) you are addressing is Columbia College.

SGS is a great program for adults and students who took time out from study either after high school or at some later time and decided to return to higher education. Their admissions has nothing to do with Columbia College, and they receive a separate BA which says SGS.

USNWR knows all about this. The only character who does not seem to appreciate this distinction is you. Maybe you are the one in need of an opportunity to return to higher education as an adult. Why don't you apply to SGS? I m sure its admissions committee would be intrigued by your application and consider you either for admissions or make a recommendation that you get some therapy to overcome whatever personal esteem difficulties you are facing.

Whatever Columbia is doing seems exceptionally fine. Lucky is anyone who has a chance to study there and to savor the best of New York City. [/quote]

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