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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Oops! Forgot to include #3 - not sure what you meant by Christians discarding the Tanakh except for the Ten Commandments. I don’t believe this is true, although there are laws, etc. that modern Jews and Christians don’t follow. 
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I mean, there’s plenty that Christians embrace that are totally antithetical to what Jews believe.

Judaism isn’t some primitive version of Christianity.[/quote]

Of course not; I wasn’t suggesting it is. [/quote]

But that’s what you imply when you talk about how Christians should be able to just celebrate Christian Seders, when Jesus wouldn’t have had a Passover Seder, as they didn’t exist then. Passover existed, but not as a Seder.

Why not just acknowledge it as the Last Supper? Maudy Thursday is all about that, right? How is incorporating elements of a rabbinical Passover Seder enhancing or informing Christianity, when those traditions didn’t start until 70-600 years after Jesus died? [/quote]

Because It is about redemption, God’s love and protection, and the importance of retelling history.[/quote]

And none of that has anything to do with rabbinical Passover. [/quote]

To whit: you can claim the Last Supper, and the lamb sacrifice as something Jesus participated in as part of that, but you don’t get to tell us what rabbinical Passover is about. That was hundreds of years after Jesus died and was exclusively a Jewish matter.[/quote]

No one is trying to tell you what Passover is about. You are trying to tell others why they can’t find meaning in it for themselves. If they believe it informs their religion or enhances their belief in God isn’t that a personal experience? One that doesn’t take away from or erase your practice or beliefs? [/quote]

We’ve explained many, many times how it’s disrespectful to take a Seder, which is wholly Jewish and was conceived of 70-500 years after Jesus’s death, and making it about Jesus is disrespectful. The Last Supper was not a Seder because Passover wasn’t celebrated that way then.

We’ve told you many times about how it amounts to erasing what is wholly a Jewish experience.

We can’t stop you from doing it. We can only tell you what it is.[/quote]

We have told you many times how even though Jesus didn’t himself participate in a Passover Seder, there is still meaning in it for some Christians. 
How does doing so amount to erasing your experience? [/quote]

Nothing anyone does in their own home or own house of worship "erases" someone else's beliefs, practices or traditions. Just like you not recognizing Jesus as Savior does not "erase" that truth for me.
Because you’re literally taking our Seder, erasing it, and inserting Jesus into it.[/quote][/quote]

I am not taking a Christian ritual and eliminating Jesus from it.[/quote]

And if you did, that wouldn't affect my beliefs, practices, or ability to worship in any way.

You could put up a manger scene and put a bag of M&Ms where the Christ Child should be; that doesn't agent me. You could hang a photo of Rick James on a cross instead of a figure of Christ. That doesn't affect me. You could light a menorah but call it an Advent wreath. That has no affect on me, what I do, and what I believe.[/quote]

As has been said, no one can stop you from being disrespectful. But it’s empathetic to understand why your choices impact others and maybe take them into account.[/quote]

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