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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Because Columbia has a smaller undergraduate student population than UVA. As I said, things that increase % of alumni donation when talking about W&M: 1. Undergrad student population size 2. Undergrad student population median family income/wealth You are literally making my argument for me.[/quote] How does showing an example that violates one of your two arguments make your argument for you? OK. Cornell has about the same undergraduate enrollment as UVA and has a lower median family income yet it has a higher alumni giving rate. That violates both of your rules. Your factors may be valid, but I'm sure there are others. I suspect the most significant from a statistical standpoint is whether or not the school is private. The USNWR alumni giving list is dominated by private schools. W&M is public but still ranks pretty high. Why can't you give it a little credit for this one thing?[/quote] Cornell has lower undergraduate pop. than UVA. Again, I have never compared W&M to privates. The person I was responding to stated that W&M has the highest alumni giving of [b]public universities[/b]. My statement was that that is highly due to the small undergrad student population and very high median income/wealth of the students' parents. This is really not a hard argument to understand and generally seems to hold.[/quote] Cornell's undergraduate population is 91% the size of UVA's. Cornell's median family income is 97% of that of UVA's median family income. Clearly similar. Cornell's alumni giving rate is 50% greater than UVA's alumni giving rate. In your statistical analysis, are you sure there are no other factors? [/quote] This is not a statistical analysis, it is only a heuristic. Cornell is private, perhaps that's another indication. I have a hard time believing Cornell undergrads have greater affection for their college than UVA undergrads though. [/quote] Privates tend to be small. But I think the bigger factor is being private (and selective). USC, a large private with 20K undergraduates has one of the highest giving rates. [/quote] That's fine, but the argument was about W&M being the topmost alumni giving among public universities. [/quote] It seemed relevant to me. Someone argued W&M having a high alumni giving rate was to be expected and not noteworthy because the school is relatively small, and small schools tend to have higher giving rate. The PP commented about causation and correlation. Private schools tend to have much higher giving rates and they tend to be small. Private is the cause, they were arguing and small was correlation. W&M is not private but still has a high giving rate.[/quote]
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