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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I would say the list price premium if law is intended graduate field is not warranted for Washington U, Tufts, or Emory over UVA and W&M. Schools like Harvard, Yale, Princeton, and Stanford are really difficult to decline, and it would also probably be tough for Columbia, Duke, etc., but not Vanderbilt, Northwestern, Notre Dame, Cornell etc. Probably no more than a dozen or so schools tops (you can exclude MIT and Caltech if not going engineering and science). There hasn't been much real data offered in this thread, but I note that the top two publics in representation on a per capita basis at super elite Yale Law are . . . W&M and UVA. The top undergraduate schools represented at the great UVA Law school (ranked #8) are . . . UVA and W&M. Sometimes it isn't too bad to be a Virginian. Use your EA, ED1, and ED2 sequence wisely and it should work out well for you. Someone had a good suggested order that I can't recall, but it made great sense. [/quote] +1. You make a lot of sense. [/quote] OP here. Sequence was ED Emory, Tufts, or Wash U (haven't decided). Think he only realistically has a shot at Emory so leaning ED there pending visit. Tufts and Wash U are very hard from DC area privates. Mob scene for these three schools at the Independent Schools Fair a few weeks bad (that was held at Georgetown Prep). If ED 1 fails, ED 2 Wake or William and Mary (probably W&M because of cost). At same EA Michigan, Chicago, and UVA (while doing ED 1). See the problem? If ED succeeds at Emory, we would not know EA UVA and are obligated (First World problems). ED comes out a week before Christmas and UVA ED is end of January. Hence the question: is it worth it if we are committed to Emory full pay. No chance of financial aid and was told yesterday by a consultant Emory gives 2% merit. This kid won't get it. Sister might though. Speaking of Sister, you mention schools that hard to deny for law school. What are your thoughts on Dartmouth? They are third in terms of the class of 2021 at UVA Law behind UVA and William and Mary undergrads? You seem wise to appreciate your advise on these points. [/quote] I see your problem. I'm afraid I don't have any real wisdom. I can only give you my point of view. Starting from the position of having monetary constraints, Virginia residency, and realistic admissions chances at UVA and W&M, I'd look at schools in three categories: 1) Gotta make it happen somehow if fortunate enough to be admitted 2) Want to make it happen if admitted 3) Not really justified from ROI or opportunity perspective based on current financial situation. Category 1 is Harvard, Stanford, MIT, Yale, Princeton, and Caltech. Category 2 is probably something like Columbia, Duke, Penn, Dartmouth, Brown, Williams, Amherst, and Chicago. Category 3 would include schools like JHU, Georgetown, Vanderbilt, Wash U, Notre Dame, Northwestern, USC, Cornell, Emory, NYU, and Wesleyan. Different people will see this differently and there might be some exceptions based on kid's intended direction (e.g. USC Film School, Georgetown School of Foreign Service). So your issue is one of your kids might get in Emory, which is below the line I drew, and one might get in Dartmouth, which I have above the line. Favoritism! And it appears your kids may be at private school, which tends to expose them to wealthy kids that are going off to full pay privates. In that scenario, the ED for full pay to Emory doesn't really make financial sense vs. in-state UVA or W&M if accepted there. If the kids really understand the expenses, which are extraordinary, and thought of it as coming out of their own pocket it might help. College costs have gone up significantly higher than the cost of living for over 40 years, and it has simply put a lot of families at the breaking point, or at a tough decision point in your case. I hope someone else has some ideas.[/quote] Your tiers are a bit old. I know several students who get into Williams and Amherst but not Vandy and Emory. Maybe 10-15 years ago, but not today. The later schools are just as difficult if not more so. [/quote]
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