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I didn't say it was illegal; just very unwise. And you certainly can't expect cars to be overjoyed about you when you're deliberately engaging in antisocial (albeit legal) behavior. [/quote]

Unwise compared to what?

and it is NOT antisocial, other than to people like you who try to avoid understanding why cyclists do what they do.[/quote]

you have the wrong person. I'm a biker and I've loved the times when I had a feasible bike commute.  I agree that biking on busy traffic arteries is legal in DC; but it's unwise, and it's anti-social to slow down traffic at rush hour.  And overall it's not good for the cause of getting more investment in and acceptance of bike infrastructure.  Just bike to Bethesda and metro in like the rest of us.  [/quote]

I don't live in MoCo.   But riding in on arterials is probably MORE wise than taking metro for most people, in terms of health outcomes.

Also if someone can ride to downtown Bethesda, can't they ride into DC on the Capital Crescent Trail?  What does this have to do with River Road?   What high speed road are you thinking of ?   One in DC?  I am pretty sure the DC govt is not going to stop putting in bike lanes because some folks in Bethesda and North Potomac don't like cyclists.

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Sure, take the Capital Crescent, that's an excellent alternative.  I seriously doubt there's any research comparing taking the Metro to biking down highly trafficked arterials like River Road with no bike infrastructure.  But anyway the other point is being anti-social.  You're engaged in an activity that's impinging on traffic, so you're going to get annoyed responses just like this OP. You can't engage in out-of-place behavior that inconveniences others, and not expect them to be annoyed.  Which is not a great look, if you care about getting better bike infrastructure created.

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1. The CCT is NOT a good alternative for someone living in say, Tenleytown and heading to Dupont.   I know this is hard, but not everyone lives in MoCo.

2. While there is no specific research on that particular route (I mean reallY?) the health effects are major, and few people are hurt riding during the day, in helmets, on arterials like that. Its not terribly comfortable, but you are nice and visible and most drivers don't want a collision.  There are lots of places that drivers think are safe for biking that are in fact more dangerous.

3. The District of Columbia does not consider it antisocial.  They are not going to build less bike infra because of resentment by Marylanders (while except for the Marylanders who attend influential black churches in DC, but I don't think many of those live in Potomac or Bethesda). If anything, higher levels of biking on the state avenues in upper NW just might prod them to accelerate alternatives.    [/quote]

You can get from Tenleytown to Dupont on smaller surface streets.  No need to take Wisconsin, unless you prize a direct route over safety/being a good citizen approrpiately sharing the road.

https://ddot.dc.gov/sites/default/files/dc/sites/ddot/publication/attachments/dc_bike_map_2012_full_version.pdf

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Amazingly enough cyclists actually like to go directly.   Just like other road users.   And again, its not unsafe, you have presented no evidence it is (and taking a route with a lot of turns can be less safe)   And it is not inappropriate.   Any more than your choice to drive on Wisconsin, polluting DC and endangering pedestrians instead of taking the Red Line.  [/quote]

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