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A fire started near a nuclear power plant means that Putin is a barbarian, while 900K Iraqi deaths mean nothing at all, in your view? 
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DP.  I don't understand your main point.  You're saying that US invading Iraq is the same as and as bad as Russia invading Ukraine.

Either you're disingenuos or you really don't know what's going on.  Russia is not invading Ukraine on any real-or-fictitious pretext.  They are trying to expand their country.  Whatever theory of "we're taking their oil", the US never intended to make Iraq the 51st state.

We don't fuss about internal disorder (China and the Ughyrs).  That won't start WWIII.  A land war of expansion in Europe?  That's a different kettle of fish.  [/quote]

Ooh child you’re saying there’s bad invasions and, like, virtuous invasions? When we invade, it ain’t all bad? [/quote]

Why are you trying to make Russia's invasion of Ukraine about us?[/quote]

Because America is the wrong country to lecture about the evils of invading other countries and changing their regimes by force.[/quote]

The condemnation of Putin has been universal except for those who are his potential allies and those who need Russia's help. No need for U.S. to sit this one out. 
If you have a thing about America because of Iraq, too bad. No one is listening to you.
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DP. A thing about America because of our totally unnecessary invasion of Iraq, in which we killed women and children. [/quote]

Yes, we did that.  To our shame.

That doesn't' mean we should not react when other countries act wrongly.  We are still the (other? only?) superpower.  And whether we want to be isolationist or should be, for decades we've played a large part in dictating what countries should or should not do, around the world.  We can't sit this one out, we aren't sitting this one out.    [/quote]

As far as Zelensky is concerned, we are.[/quote]

We trained their army and supplied/are continuing to supply their weapons.  We have heavily sanctioned Russia.  How is that sitting this one out?[/quote]

Zelensky has repeatedly asked for fighter jets and a no-fly zone. [/quote]

It is his job to defend his country and ask for as much as he could, publicly, to put pressure on US and EU politicians. It is not his job to avoid WW3. However other countries have to consider.
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