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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I doubt there was a VIP on board ever.  And I doubt that the helicopter took off from Langley.

On day 1, Hangover Hesgeth said it was a continuity of government training exercise.  It took off from Belvoir or Bolling and went to Mt. Weather.  In order to prevent having the route monitored, they turned the transponder off when they got (initially) to Langley.  On the way back they turned the transponder on when they got to Langley so as to be seen by ATC when they re-entered airspace used by DCA.  No VIP.  Simple.

Why would a training flight have a VIP onboard?  Waste of time for the VIP and training missions carrying an actual VIP are no longer training missions.

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My understanding of Continuity of Government is that they trained for a terrorist or nuclear attack by flying "body doubles" of senators, congressmen, et al, up to Mt. Weather, so that if the time came for the real thing, they would act accordingly, taking the actual politicians up there. These "pseudo" lawmakers would then pretend to act as real lawmakers, passing legislation, issuing directives, etc. Don't ask me how I know. Sounds like a joke, but [b]it happened for real after the Sept. 11, 2201 attacks[/b], one of which was aiming for the Capitol. I forget who he was, but one senator said something along the lines of "I could get arrested for this, but after the 9/11 attacks I was whisked up to a mountain on a minute's notice" (no mention of the specific mountain). Dick Cheney was evacuated as well, possibly not to Mt. Weather but to Raven Rock on the Mason-Dixon line. There was even a dumb TV show about this, with Kiefer Sutherland.

So I conclude that the helo was returning from a legitimate training mission, after dropping off a passenger(s) at the mountain, who had a legitimate reason to be on the initial flight. The crew was not on a joyride.[/quote]

The time traveler has exposed themselves.  Maybe you'd care to comment on the space aliens who were responsible for taking over the controls of the BH and flying it into a passenger plane?[/quote]

Cheney was taken to the bunker underneath the WH. Why are you making stuff up? I know 2 people personally that were in the bunker with him on 9/11 but you can just watch the Apple documentary on this in which Cheney, Scooter and Rice themselves talk about this. No one was whisked away via helicopter from the WH. [/quote]

Cheney was supposed to go to Mt. Weather but he didn't. Dennis Hastert, third in line for the presidency after W. and Cheney, was flown to Mt. Weather. Sec Def Rumsfeld was supposed to go to Raven Rock but he refused. Paul Wolfowitz, Deputy Sec Def, was flown to Raven Rock. [/quote]

They were not flown from the WH. So stop. [/quote]

This thread is not about Dick Cheney, Rumsfeld, or the White House. It is about the need for helicopter pilots to train for the contingency of an attack on the seat of government, and the need to evacuate people (i.e. "VIPs") from a variety of locations in the DMV to secure locations away from the city. There is no other practical way to transport people to those sites other than by helicopter. If indeed that was what the flight was about, i.e. training, then it was perfectly legitimate. We should hold off on the actions of the Black Hawk crew until an investigation is complete, but I am afraid that the event has become so politicized, that we will never know. [/quote]

There wouldn’t be any in-bound flights if the capital is under attack. They should train this route when the aren’t dozens of civilian planes landing. Like midnight. Just a phenomenally bad decision to allow this route when the airport is open.  [/quote]

DP. This is why so many people here are convinced that it had to be training in conjunction with a VIP trip. Because otherwise the decision to allow the training to take place at that time of day through that airspace is so illogical that it defies belief. [/quote]

Considering how frequently helicopters are flying around there, it likely happens all the time.  You just don’t know about it because they’ve never flown into a passenger plane [/quote]

They do fly around a lot and there have been many close calls.  There are a number of reasons they’re in the air.  Training and gaining hours can happen in addition another purpose for the flight, but if the SOLE purposes of a flight is training, there is no reason in the world that should be done around an airport with known congestion issues and dozens of commercial planes in the area.  Some of us don’t think the Army is stupid enough to do this, therefore we’re asking, what was the true mission of the flight?  And if it was typical and authorized use, why hide it? [/quote]

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