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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]And yet pro lifers have those signs all over black areas about how the most unsafe place for a black baby is in the womb due to abortion- like they even care[/quote]

Do you think it's better to abort Black and Hispanic babies with no limitations at all?[/quote]
DP here. I think it's better for Black, Latina, Chicana, Indigenous, you name it women to have the freedom to make decisions about what is best for themselves and their families. I don't think I know what's best, nor do I think you know.[/quote]

I know, and I think you know, that far too many Black and Hispanic babies are aborted.[/quote]

You sound patronizing. Why do you think Black and Hispanic women shouldn't have control over their bodies? Feeling nostalgic for the good old days when white men had control over Black women's bodies?[/quote]

Your lack of concrn for the destruction of babies who are Black or Hispanic is disturbing. If someone like Trump were encouraging Black and Hispanic moms to abort their babies or applauding their choices to do so, I don't think you'd be dismissive of what's happening.[/quote]
Allowing women liberty isn't the same as encouraging anything...but I think you know that.[/quote]

If Trump said he didn't care how many Black and Hispanic babies were aborted, many men and women would be using his words as an example of racism. ..but I think you know that.[/quote]

Well for one, babies are not aborted,’white, black, or otherwise. [/quote]

Yes, they are aborted. You can also use the words suctioned out, vacuumed out, terminated, etc. [/quote]

Embryos and fetuses are suctioned out, vacuumed out, terminated, etc. when the women carrying them decide they do not want to be pregnant, as is their right (for now).

Babies are separate beings not embedded in another human being's body, and therefore not a part of this discussion at all.[/quote]

Depends on your definition of ‘is’ is, amirite? Is a thing halfway out of a womb a baby or a fetus at that point?[/quote]
The religious extremists that now run the GOP and the religious tribunal that we used to call the Supreme Court are banning abortion at all points and for any and all reasons. You can quit with your sad little red herring; [i]women will die. [/i] Know that this blood is on your hands.[/quote]

Exactly. 
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The Court itself is not banning abortion, but it appears that it would permit states to ban abortion.  All in the name of democracy, of course.  But what the Court appears to be saying is that there are no Constitutional limits on state abortion laws.  In another words, under the US Constitution, a state could force a woman to carry a pregnancy to term, even in case of rape or life of mother.  Whether a state would do so is not relevant.  No Constitutional limits, apparently.  And we actually know that several states are considering such laws.  So, the Court apparently is saying that a form of slavery is okay under our Constitution.
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You were doing fine until you equated protecting unborn children to slavery. Any argument for abortion that does not factor in the life of the unborn child is not going to be meaningful. [/quote]

BS. A child does not exist until it is born.  Sorry.  You may hold that religious view, and you are entitled to hold it.  You are not entitled to force your religious views on others.  The Constitution at its adoption did not protect blacks or women, and certainly did not protect fetuses.  Reversing Roe means a state, under the US Constitution, can force women to carry a pregnancy to term.   That is a form of slavery.  
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What is your argument against those who hold that view but not from a religious standpoint?  There was an interesting WaPo article last year about irreligious/atheist pro-life people.

I agree with PP that equating a forced birth to slavery (a lifetime of human bondage) is not a fair comparison.[/quote]

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