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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]If you're going to make a suggestion, I just ask that you give at least anecdotal evidence that shows support for both general ed and AAP. Sorry if that was confusing.[/quote]

Meet the needs of the student in the program they are receiving services from in the building where it is a best fit for them.
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So then, Gen Ed kids who attend centers should be given the choice of attending a different base school that is not a center.  Fair is fair, right?[/quote]
In some cases, why not?  If a child's mental or emotional health is truly jeopardized by being outnumbered by AAP kids, it's an issue worthy of a solution.  If allowing such a move also relieves some of the parental friction at the center, all the better.[/quote]

There has not been one person who has disagreed with this suggestion, AAP or non AAP.[/quote]

OP here. Great. A suggestion to allow base school center kids to go to a different school. I appreciate that you are trying to offer solutions. I think this could help some general ed students and hurt others. I don't really see it affecting AAP kids too much. The only problem I see with this suggestion is that it possibly creates issues for FCPS with boundaries and bussing. Even if they could move, base schools are allowed to have LLIV programs, so would that always solve the issue? Would they always have enough space? I don't know. [b]I would hope that instead of trying to separate AAP and general ed further, that the programs could be more integrated which was the whole reason I started this thread.[/b] Also, some parents want to have level 2 and 3 AAP integrated more with level IV students, so separating AAP and general ed further could backfire and those students could get less enrichment than they do now. It's worth bringing up to the school board though if the AAP parents and principals won't agree to make any changes at center schools for the level 2 and 3 students and general ed students.

Are level 2 and 3 students considered AAP or general ed? FCAG and the advanced academic committee touches on them slightly but I mostly read about them here as part of general ed. I have two kids in level IV AAP so I don't know all of the issues within level 2 and level 3 instruction. I've heard enough people complain about it and can see the difference in curriculum myself, so I partially understand when they complain or request change.

One other suggestion I was going to make - I had been waiting till this group listed the problems (yes I have other suggestions besides integrated lunch and recess) would be to have a general education advisory committee. There is one for advanced academics, special education, title 1, minorities, etc. Why not have one for general ed? Their purpose could be to review the local plan for general education. That group could then put out a report of recommendations for the general education curriculum and between them and the advanced academic committee, there might be enough recommendations to help level 2 and level 3 academics. They could also make recommendations on boundary changes to help general ed populations at schools.

https://www.fcps.edu/search?keywords=committee[/quote]
This is a very revealing post OP.  It's clear that your vision of a single solution that helps both APP and Gen Ed involves their greater or total integration.  You say so right in your post as bolded above.  That's a perfectly valid opinion, so there's no point pretending that you have no ideal end in mind, even if many think it's not a winner. If you'd said this up front, it may have been a very different thread.  Instead, you are picking apart others' comments which don't serve this unstated end.  Again, this post is a good illustration.  You sort of brush off the idea of allowing some Gen Ed kids to evacuate their center because you "don't really see it affecting AAP kids too much" Yet in the same post your propose a "Gen Ed Advisory Committee" which arguably would affect AAP kids even less.  Again, nothing wrong with the idea but it doesn't quite fit the criteria you are expecting others to deliver for your review. [/quote]

I agree.  Gen Ed students should absolutely be allowed to leave their center for the next closest school, if they so choose - just as AAP students are allowed to leave their base school for the nearest center.  OP, I think you mean well, but you're not really understanding that many of these issues won't be fixed simply by integrating these kids a little more at lunch and recess.  I do think that should have been done long ago, in the form of mixed homerooms.  Some posters are insisting, very oddly, that this simply would never work, and it's clear they don't *want* it to work.

For once, we need to focus on what would work for the Gen Ed kids, and [i]only [/i]the Gen Ed kids.  AAP kids have been given their choice of schools and provided transportation to either school, for years and years.  The scales have been imbalanced from the beginning.  Maybe instead of trying to find solutions that work for everyone, we should instead be looking at what families of Gen Ed kids want and need and have been asking for for a long time - equity in choosing the school that works for them, just as AAP kids can do.[/quote]

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