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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]It can be very confusing for an 18 or 19 year old boy when he is with a girl and they both been drinking heavily in regards to where the line is...especially if he has no explicit conversations with anyone about the exact parameters of what constitutes consent.

In many cases, you are asking a boy whose judgment is impaired to make judgment calls on the amount of impairment of the girl, something that can be very hard for him to do. A boy can be drunk and not realize the girl is as drunk or drunker than he is.[/quote]

I would expect a kid who gets into Stanford to realize that he should not finger a woman who is unconscious behind a dumpster.[/quote]

But he was a DRUNK kid who got into Stanford. Brains and rational thought go out the window when you're that drunk. Women can't trust someone like that to care what they're doing. [/quote]

True fact: I drank a lot of alcohol in college and did not finger any unconscious women behind a dumpster.[/quote]

True fact: Not everyone has the same intelligence level, emotional maturity, social experience, impulse control, ability to handle alcohol,etc.[/quote]

How about when in doubt, don't have sex with the person. No mental gymnastics or genius needed. Can't figure it out? THEN JUST STOP.[/quote]

Take a good, hard look at the mugshots of convicted rapists and child molestors who've been sent to prison. Then tell us if you think they give a flying f..... about not having sex with their victims. I'm far more interested in doing all that's humanly possible to prevent a criminal act BEFORE the crime is committed. [/quote]

This statement and the posts about teaching our kids how to try to be responsible and safe to the degree possible is NOT blaming the victim.  It's about teaching our loved ones how to minimize the chances of being raped, hurt, robbed, murdered, or violated by other crimes.  It's about doing our best to be aware of surroundings and not go off with strangers because people like Joran van der Sloot,  Jesse Matthew, and others with bad intentions can't be trusted. None of us can ever be completely safe, but let's be reasonably cautious. Because we live in a big city, several of us took a safety class from a neighborhood policeman. Obviously, we can still fall victim to a crime, but what he taught us about even the way to walk to our cars was eye-opening.[/quote]

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