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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Exactly. As I said, reminds me of the college athletic down the dorm hall whose ex girlfriend showed up in lingerie, seduced him then accused him of non consensual sex. He had no recourse. [/quote]

Ex- girlfriend showing up in lingerie ... boy should have said no.

But then again boys too often lead with their penis and this is a prime example.[/quote]

Exactly why should he have said no?  She's there explicitly announcing her enthusiastic consent, he takes her up on her offer, they have sex, and then seh accuses him of raping her.  Why should he have said no?  This thread is ridiculous.  I agree with the PP who asked, "who made you the rape arbiter?"  Here's yet another case where there was CLEAR CONSENT, and yet the man is still being accused of rape.  Get a grip on yourself.[/quote]

So wait, your objection to the idea of consent is that people might be [b]accused[/b] of something they didn't do? So if the system works like this:

Accuser: You did X!
Accused: No, I didn't.
System: We find that the accused did not do X.

that's a failure of the system, because the system shouldn't even have gotten to the point of the accuser accusing?

Yow.[/quote]

Where on earth did you come up with the moronic conclusion that I (or anybody else, for that matter) "objects to the idea of consent"??????  No one has said that - or even hinted at it.  Consent is necessary, of course.  The argument here is that even WITH CONSENT, there is always the chance that the man will be accused of rape/sexual assault after the fact.  There is nothing anyone can do, even after gaining consent and engaging in consensual sex, to ensure that the woman won't decide to lie and label the sex "rape".  Correct?

You have some very muddled and circular debating "skills".  [/quote]

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