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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]When OP quoted the poor poster below, [b]OP bolded selected words[/b] in an effort to prove her contention, namely, that Christians often speak for all other Christians. Therefore, OP argues, it's unfair to criticize Muslima for speaking for all Muslims.

Let's take the same passage OP quoted, and let's [u]underline the parts OP ignored[/u]. Let's underline the parts where this poor poster, whoever it was, [u]actually did qualify her statements as being her own thinking and opinions[/u].

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[b]And here are many more examples of people of other faiths, namely Christian in these examples though, that seem to be speaking for others:
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Subject: Worldly success doesn't define a Christian
 Anonymous

There is a middle way, OP. [u]I think[/u] [b]Jesus tells us [/b]that wealth corrupts - that it makes us strive for the wrong things, care for the wrong things, and spend our time in the wrong way. You can see that side of things, yes? That materialism is not the path to God? But the world shows us that just because you trust in God all your material needs (basic food, clothing, shelter) will not be magically provided. Plenty of good people, all over the world, starve to death. So [u]I think[/u] the idea is that money should never be the point, the thing you strive for, because it is likely to lead you away from God. It might bring you closer to a new church building, sure, but there is nothing that says that church buildings or priests or fancy pews are closer to God than a person in the streets serving the homeless. [b]And Jesus never did say that [/b]hard work and responsibility were Godly virtues. He said that love is the most important thing. [u]I'd argue [/u]that it isn't terribly loving to let your children suffer through hunger and cold, so you need some responsibility and hard work to feed them, [b]but Jesus didn't say that.[/b][/quote]

Golly. OP's bolding wasn't very reliable, was it? In fact, OP's selective bolding distorted the passage. That poor PP, whoever it was, included plenty of caveats to indicate that these were her own opinion. But OP wants us to think otherwise, so she distorts what's in plain sight.[/quote]

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[b]But if you are going to boldface any parts, why only boldface those parts that serve your interest? Let's also look at the parts where Christians clearly seem to interpret the entire Christian faith for others….
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Subject: Worldly success doesn't define a Christian
 Anonymous 
There is a middle way, OP. I think Jesus tells us that wealth corrupts - that it makes us strive for the wrong things, care for the wrong things, and spend our time in the wrong way. You can see that side of things, yes? That materialism is not the path to God? But the world shows us that just because you trust in God all your material needs (basic food, clothing, shelter) will not be magically provided. Plenty of good people, all over the world, starve to death. So I think the idea is that money should never be the point, the thing you strive for, because it is likely to lead you away from God. It might bring you closer to a new church building, sure, but there is nothing that says that church buildings or priests or fancy pews are closer to God than a person in the streets serving the homeless. [b]And Jesus never did say that hard work and responsibility were Godly virtues.[/b] [b]He said that love is the most important thing. [/b]I'd argue that it isn't terribly loving to let your children suffer through hunger and cold, so you need some responsibility and hard work to feed them, [b[b]]but Jesus didn't say that.[/b]

[b]In the above bold face comments, I'm not seeing any "some", "a few", or any other qualifiers associated. Where are they? It's pretty clear in at least some of the comments the poster is indeed speaking about the Christian belief system, not simply HER belief system. This is no different from what Muslima has done. Yet you find fault with Muslima. It is because she identified herself as a Muslim who loves her faith and spoke positively about Islam. You have made her the target, but not your own Christian brethren simply because she is a Muslim. [/b]

Subject: Worldly success doesn't define a Christian
 Anonymous  
[b]99% of Christians do not believe that children dying of disease, or murder, or tsunamis that kill thousands, are acts of God.[/b] I'd say that some of the terrible things that happen are due to human numbscullery - we won't do simple things like share our wealth enough that everyone has clean water and a place to poop, and we do really expensive things like go to war. And with the bad stuff that is just the way the world works...I just don't believe that God is a being that mucks around in the weather/plate tectonics/virology like that. I think through all that stuff, God stands fast in loving us and loving the vast amazing universe. Its up to us to channel that love to take care of each other when we suffer.

[b]Whoa. That first comment is a sweeping generality, and true or not, this poster is speaking about Christian beliefs, not simply her own belief. How is this different from Muslima's way of communicating? Or is it simply because Muslima is a Muslim and it's fun for you to pick on anything she posts? [/b]

09:22
Subject: Re:"Bad" Catholic mom question on getting children become catholic
Anonymous  
Anonymous wrote: OP bad Catholic mom here- Thank you all for your information- after 1st and 2nd grade - that's pretty much it, right? I mean, besides going to church-
No...they need to be confirmed. And the age of confirmation really varies by the parish/diocese. [b]If you really want them to be Catholic then you really need to make the commitment to go to church on a regular basis and learn the teachings, traditions etc[/b]. You might also want to start saying prayers at bedtime too.

[b]Here we have a well intentioned Christian giving parenting advice about how to ensure children are Catholic. The bold faced comment is not simply her opinion, it's her opinion about how ALL Catholic children should be raised. Again, not very different from what Muslima would say. But Muslima is a Muslim and an easy target so you criticize her,not this poster.[/b]

10/28/2014 15:20
    Subject: Re:The Pope Believes in Evolution
 Anonymous 
Anonymous wrote:
15:07, I don't think you know what transubstantiation is, as it is completely irrelevant and unrelated to evolution.

Lifelong Catholic. No one in my family, including my now dead uber-Catholic grandmother ever believed that evolution and God were incompatible.

OP, I think it's the literalist fundamentalists who believe that the Bible, including the earliest stories from the Book of Genesis are all historical fact.
Fundamentalists usually believe that the Bible is literally true, [b]which isn't at all the case for Catholics.[/b] The religions that don't believe in evolution tend to be the same ones that don't care much for the Catholic church, partly because [b]Catholics are not literalists when it comes to the Bible. [/b][b]Catholics believe that much in the Bible is told as stories, or as a previous poster notes, as fables. [/b]We can learn about truth from stories without the stories needing to be literally true. 
[b]Evolution been believed in by Catholics for as long as I can remember. [/b]

[b]And above we have a few nice examples of how Christians do speak about Christian principles, not their own personal opinion. Where are the qualifiers such as "some"? Sure, the pp begins with "I think" but if the "I think" is followed up with sweeping generalizations about all Catholics such as, "Evolution has been believed by Catholics for as long as I can remember" or "Catholics are not literalists" or "which isn't AT ALL the case for Catholics", what is the point of saying "I think?"  Besides, I have a feeling even if Muslima uses "I think" in every comment she posts, you rabid Muslim haters will still want to rip her posts apart.[/b]

Catholics are much more sophisticated than some other CHristians. [b]Catholics are not taught about the bible in any depth, but they know all about the rules of the church [/b]-- about the miracle of the bread and wine turning to the actual body and blood of Jesus, about how in order to become a saint, a person has to first be proven to have performed miracles after they have died. [b]Catholics don't condone divorce,[/b] but if you have enough money and perseverance, you can obtain an annulment even after many years of marriage and several children. The fundamentalists are way behind in that area.

[b]And with the above comments, again, there is no qualifying language used to show she is not speaking about her own personal opinion. The poster is clearly speaking about the entire Catholic belief system, which is what Muslima has done. [/b]

[b]Does the Christian faith ask you to pick on Muslims who speak about their own belief system? [/b][/quote]

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