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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]It doesn’t prove Ivy League schools matter. You can argue it’s the high student caliber in those schools that led to the results.[/quote]

Ivy and peers are where the high caliber students are concentrated. It's the same thing. Did you even read the article? and understand it? Seems like you did not.

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Did you read the actual research article? What you are describing is a theory developed by Harvard alums and described as facts by an Atlantic troll.

What was in the research article is that going to an Ivy League school does increase the [b]probability of being a 1%er.[/b] If making obscene amounts of money by working for grifters like McKinsey doesn't appeal to you, then going to an Ivy League school doesn't help you.[/quote]

My household and most of my adult friends' households are in the top 1 or 2% of income. We are a mix of doctor-doctor, doc-lawyer, doc-professor(ivy) and doc--tech-industry families. Not a single mckinsey or IB in the bunch, and half of us were lower income when we met at ivy med school. All of us went to ivy+ or Berkeley or williams/amherst for undergrad. We all credit our undergrad experience for playing a large role in getting us into medical school and helping us be successful there. None of us had trouble paying off 150-350k loans.
My multi-specialty practice has a large variety of med schools but the majority went to T25 undergrad, and all of us who have working spouses are in the top 1 or 2%. None of us were chasing money, we were called to the profession. Residency is too grueling if it is not a calling. The money is a huge benefit and helped those of us formerly poor elevate our kids: private schools or afford houses in top public districts, able to be full pay for college.
Say what you want about the study and all of the similar ivy+ Chetty research, but the description of the peer-group experience is what we all felt, at different top places, and what my DC's are experiencing at their top schools. They are full pay yet they see a large benefit in being around the peers if their schools compared with the less-varied, less intellectual peers at their fancy private day school. 
[b]The major flaw in the article is they did not add about 6 more top unis/2-3 lacs to the mix. The 12 schools they studied are not the only ones that would score significantly higher compared to flagships. 
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You are correct that it is a major flaw. There are 10 or so  other schools which would demonstrate the same impact in getting to the 1%. They are the non T10+ schools which send significant numbers to IB and MBB because the while they are correlating with the schools the causation is access to IB and MBB jobs.[/quote]

I forget who wrote the paper but they drew the line at 34 schools.[/quote]

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