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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]That it may not pass shows how out of touch democrats still are

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You are in the deep minority on this when people understand what this bill actually does. [/quote]

Voter ID is just common sense that falls well within the mainstream of public opinion, transcending party lines and demographics.

Polls consistently show overwhelming support: A recent CNN poll revealed that 85 percent of white Americans, 82 percent of Latinos, and 76 percent of black Americans favor requiring photo ID to vote.

And Democrat Elites continue to make up reasons to reject.

But that is a good one, so People are for the Save Act , but until they understand it like the Elites understand it , they will change their mind.

thank you for that morning chuckle. [/quote]
I am not against voter ID; however, it is onerous to force people to go above and beyond to prove they are who they say they are.  A Real ID should be sufficient to prove citizenship — if not, then the onus should be on the states to ensure everyone's Real ID shows this.  A woman should not have to track down her marriage certificate(s) if she already has a Real ID.

The thing is, this is going to hurt the Red States more than the Republicans think it will.  Older people are overwhelmingly Republican AND they vote — but putting the onus on 89 year old Matilda and 75 year old Gertrude to track down their marriage licenses and get a proper ID is going to limit their ability to vote in the end.  All these old women will ultimately not vote because it’s going to be too difficult for them to manage it.  Good luck, Republicans![/quote]

The thing is we can already tell you're angling for illegal votes when you start mentioning what party it is going to hurt more.  It's high time to make our voting systems legitimate and not just in legislation, but in action. End the nonsense and excuses.[/quote]

What illegal votes. The problem you are talking about is almost non-existent. The Cato institute looked into this and found that even in Fairfax county (which has a very large immigrant population) non-citizen voting is practically non-exisitent. Under the most pessimistic assumptions, non-citizen votes accounted for at most 1/10,000 votes cast in elections over a five year period. Non-citizen registered voters accounted for less than 1/5,000 voters and most of these people never voted at all. The non-citizens who registered mostly did by accident because the DMV registered them when they got their drivers license. T[b]he SAVE act is estimated to disenfranchise a minimum of  10 US citizens, but only 1/1,000 non-citizens are registering to vote. Does it really make sense to infringe on the rights of 10 million US citizens to vote, in order to ensure that 25,000 non citizens don't register to vote? [/b] [b]This law would violate the rights of 400 US citizens for every one illegal voter registration it prevents. [/b][u][/quote]

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