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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]We have an obesity epidemic, especially among lower income.  There isn’t food scarcity, there is food over abundance. [/quote]

Healthy food is expensive.  Unhealthy, preservative-laden foods are cheaper.  Plus poor people often lack access to good grocery stores, along with often suffering from stress, lack of sleep, lack of access to healthcare and many other issues that contribute to poor health which can also lead to obesity.

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Basic heathy food is not expensive, nor is it elusive. Next excuse?

The only way to become obese is to consume an excess of calories, continuously, over a long period of time. Hard to buy the narrative we have so many starving people that are 50+ lbs overweight  [/quote]

Your assignment for today - drive to inner city and walk to closest corner store. Buy $20 worth of healthy food. 
Drive to rural area and find small market and buy $20 worth of healthy food. Report back. [/quote]

DP. What’s your point?
Food costs less in suburban and rural areas, but the wages are also lower in rural areas and urban areas have higher wages and more opportunities.

The same laws of supply and demand apply either way. The stores sell what people will buy. 
The problem is 100% cultural. 
Healthy diets can be easily based on rice, beans, tortillas, potatoes. Add in some veggies. Eggs, chicken, and ground beef provide a lot of nutritional bang for the buck. Apples, carrots, and cabbage keep well and do not cost that much. 
Again, 100% cultural that people buy bags of cookies and chips instead of real food.
Don’t know how to cook? Learn.[/quote]

If you’d done the assignment, you find few of those products in the stores I mentioned.  It’s a loss to a small store owner, who would have to pay to purchase and power refrigerator and freezers. 
I can’t believe the ignorance shown on this thread. Refusing to go and find out for yourself. You scared of the inner city? Scared of rural hick America? [/quote]

I’ve been many places.
But why on earth would I want to go to the inner city? I don’t need to go there. I believe you that fresh produce is harder to find there, but it is 100% because of supply and demand  and culture. Also, even the processed crap at those corner stores is not cheap!

When I lived in Korea, it was hard to find American peanut butter, and when I did find it (usually alongside a small selection of American and British foods) it was expensive. This does not mean there was a vast conspiracy to make it difficult for me to buy peanut butter. It simply means it was not a popular product and therefore more expensive to sell. There is also no vast conspiracy to suppress low income people here by denying them vegetables.

I do a lot of shopping at Aldi, Walmart, and international groceries. I’ve noticed many different immigrants who probably don’t have much money and yet fill their baskets with vegetables and fruit and meat. Go to the international market and you’ll see. Unfortunately, many of them eventually adopt American diets and then they suffer.

Also, there is nothing wrong with frozen vegetables. Aldi literally has them for a dollar a bag. I am not poor anymore but I have been poor, and have relatives who subsist on very little money, but don’t eat processed garbage. Unless you are truly in the bottom 1% and living under a bridge I am sorry but no excuses.[/quote]

Yep. I have been poor as well and let me tell you I was not spending my food budget on things like soda, snacks, and dessert. A large canister of oatmeal from Aldi is now about 5, back in the day it was closer to two. You can get a lot of breakfasts out of one container, dress up the oats different ways, sweet, savory etc. much cheaper than buying some crappy sugar laden cereal.

At that time I lived near a shoppers and I would hunt for those 10 for 10 deals to stock up on various things like pastas sauce and then dress up the sauce with ground beef or sausage depending on what was on sale.

And yep, frozen veggies and fruits are pretty cheap.

But no one wants to hear all that. Someone is about to pipe up like “well what about people with no arms to stir the pot of sauce”[/quote]

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