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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Kid had 1580 SAT/36 ACT.
Salutatorian. Private HS in Texas. Basically maxed out GPA with 10 APs at 5.

Great ECs.

Denied at H,P,S 
Accepted Vandy, Duke and Oxford.[/quote]

This is crazy. Harvard, Princeton, Stanford is such a crap shoot even with these stats….so frustrating.
Where is you kid going between Vandy, Duke and Oxford?[/quote]
None of this is crazy. This person could’ve gotten rejected more than a decade ago. Just having a good score isn’t unique- a lot of people have good scores with course rigor. [/quote]

+1 Parents don't grasp this until their kid experiences it themselves.  These schools are rejecting 95 out of every 100 applicants (it is actually probably more like rejecting 97/98 out 100 if you take out the  spots that are essentially reserved for athletes, kids of donors/legacy and questbridge).  Your outstanding kid is competing with literally thousands of other equally qualified students for a couple of spots.   [/quote]

Im the parent of the kid denied at H,P and S and accepted to Vandy, Duke and Oxford.
The frustrating part for him is that little sister just got in Stanford, same major, worst stats. 1550/35 top 3% but not salutatorian and quite frankly, worse ECs than her brother. [/quote]

DS was rejected from all of the Ivy plus schools and ended up at Georgetown.  His younger sister had a worse GPA and SAT score but got into Princeton.  That's why this admissions game is a crapshoot at the very elite schools.  Your DS had some great choices - which one did he pick of the three?[/quote]

DP. Everyone laments how weak boys are these days, but at the top levels they are extremely good. But they do tend to congregate in a handful of majors - mostly STEM and business. But all of the selective schools strive for a 50-50 balance. So it's hyper-competitive for boys looking at engineering at Princeton, Stanford, Rice, MIT, Georgia Tech. And it's also hyper-competitive for business - Penn-Wharton, NYU-Stern, Cornell-Dyson, Michigan-Ross, Berkeley-Hass.

Girls have a definite advantage in these fields in these schools. Most of the smart boys go into these fields and it's a Mad Max world for them. But there aren't as many smart girls choosing engineering or business. And with everyone striving for a 50-50 balance - as they should - it's a different space for male or female applicants.  [/quote]

This is no longer true at the very top "interdisciplinary" mid-size ivy-level schools: when we toured as well as after ours picked their ivy, they question of balance was asked at almost every info session. Almost all said a variation of the same: the number of BME and Environmental engineering females in the applicant pool far outnumbered males, CS applicants were 45/55 female to male, and so were half of the rest of the stem majors. Bio, chem have been majority female interests in the applicant pool for many years, as most are premeds and premeds have been female-dominated for a while. 
Math, physics and EE/ECE are still predominantly male interests among applicants. The ivies, Duke, Stanford admit by school not major but they said to get 40-45% female overall engineers they do not have to have a significantly higher admit rate the past 3 cycles, engineering has become that popular with females. It does not matter to this type of school that almost all BE and Env are female and the ECE are almost all male, because students do not declare the E-major until sophomore year and the balance in deivisions is not tracked. They add professors and sections if one becomes more popular but they do not care about divisional sex balacnce: they just like the whole E-school to be about 40-45% female and now that is easy to do with the swing toward women in stem and girls who code that started with the elementary and middle schools push for the same around 2015. My kid is MechE and a male and over half his robotics team in HS was female and none wanted classic E-schools such as Michigan, Purdue, even GT--instead they all chased ivies or Duke because they wanted to be able to do music or arts and/or double major outside of Engineering. [/quote]

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