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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]The 8U relay was tuckahoe I believe, CB’s biggest rivals. Let’s not pretend that T wouldn’t do the same thing when an opponent’s relay DQed as well. The “upper” D1 teams are unbelievably competitive. Everyone goes all in every meet. I can assure you that CB was not cheering in a harmful way. They don’t care that the kid DQed, they cheered because it worked in their favor. Any possible points scored needed to be scored to win the meet. Think about it this way: if a quarterback throws a turnover the opposing fans cheer. Not in a harmful way to the QB, but because their team got the ball back.[/quote]

No, the other D1 teams are not like this, it’s only CB.  At D1 relay carnival CB DQ’d two relays and no one (including Tuckahoe, their supposed biggest rival) was cheering at their misfortune because wtf…. I was there, there was no cheering at all by any other teams when it happened.

This is the definition of bad sportsmanship when you cheer like this.  Instead cheer for success and encourage both your own team and rivals to do their best.  Shake hands.  It’s a rec summer swim league for goodness sake.  Good competitive races are great, cheering for people to lose is terrible behavior.

I think in the speech before every meet in the NVSL code of conduct they actually mention sportsmanship and the proper behavior.  Cheering when a “rival” 8 year old DQs does not fit the bill.

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It’s not easy chill rec for the top 2 teams in d1. When a team hangs banners like they’ve won the superbowl or nba champs in their indoor pool…that’s the intensity you’re getting. As far as cheering for a DQ, I see it in that context of intensity. Bad sportsmanship? I guess. How many here have [b]cheered when a kid on the opposing team has fouled out etc etc or taken satisfaction?[/b] I have.

Perhaps don’t score all stars? Or designate certain coaches to truly make all star lineups and have these relays battle it out.

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D4 NP here, and no dog in this fight, but this is simply not comparable to contact sports foul or yellow card where there is some kind of physical contact/interference against the other team. The DQing kid never did anything “at” the other teams that would have interfered with their performance. There really is no good reason to cheer at anyone being DQ’d in swimming because even if it results in your team winning, it is a sad way to win. [/quote]

I watched a DQ in an older boys relay (not the 8U) and saw the stroke and turn judge raise his hand. My reaction, and that of everyone around me, was to cringe a bit and say something like "oh that poor kid, he must feel terrible". Even though it clearly meant my own child's ranking would go up one spot, it never occurred to me to be happy about it. My team's time is their time.

Totally different from contact sports. If someone does something illegal and gets called for it, we're happy about that because they're being held accountable for their behavior. Cheering for an accidental swim DQ would be more like cheering when an opposing team member is injured and pulled out of the game, because now your team has a better chance of winning. Who does that??!?[/quote]

Totally agree.  Who wants to move up a spot on a DQ[/quote]

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