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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Caltech comes the closest to a true meritocracy. Interestingly, the profs are currently far more concerned with athletic admission boosts than racial, as there’s a high percentage of athletes at a school of 1000.

But even at Caltech I certainly wouldn’t be surprised if there’s some differences difference based on sex, given there’s more than double the number of male applicants but the student population is 54% male. So, is that an ok exception? If so, how different from other cases? If not, do we lose something? There has always been at least a case for some form of diversity, but arguing we might as well resort to ditching democratic norms if we can’t agree where to draw the line is like burning down the house when you dislike the paint job. [/quote]

Was it worth the civil unrest and chaos of the 1960s to stop legal discrimination against blacks?
Sure this isn't nearly as bad but it's still racial discrimination and it's certainly worth destroying harvard over.

[b]I bet if you just lined up test scores and GPA, it wouldn't look as bad between men and women at caltech as the difference between blacks and asians at harvard.[/b]
I personally don't think we should have gender preferences either but the gap is not obscene

Here's another thing about places like caltech and mit and women.  Do you notice anything they have in common?
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Have you been to a math olympiad, or any other high level math competition? Math olympiad is male dominated. Even at the lower AIME qualification level of math, only 22% are girls. SAT and GPA are low ceiling. If MIT and Caltech wanted to really go all out on meritocracy, they could test at a much higher level for math and have an extremely male dominated incoming class, and some people want this. I personally do not, but that does not make me a man-hater. At most non-tech schools, it's the male applicants that have to get boosted to get admitted. I happen to think balanced gender ratios are nice. [/quote]

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