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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Remember this statement by Biden last year?

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Knock this crap off. There is nothing any president can do to stop someone from renting a truck and driving into a crowd of people. Trump couldn't have stopped him and Biden couldn't have stopped him. This is not productive to do this style of finger pointing. We need to understand what we as a nation are doing wrong where our own citizens turn on us like this, and until we figure that out it won't matter what party is in office. [/quote]

1000 times no. It is absolutely productive to question to which threats our intelligence agencies like the FBI are devoting its resources and energy - political talking points or actual threats?[/quote]

Far right and white supremacist groups are the biggest domestic terrorism threat. Not sure why you think this negates all of that.

The person who called it the biggest terror attack since 9/11 is an idiot. [/quote]

Imagine being the person who says “white supremacists” are the most dangerous terrorism threat as 15 families are waiting to get their relatives out of the morgue to bury them after they were massacred by an Islamic radical.

Imagine how stupid you would look if you said that.

Wow. [/quote]

He didn’t say the only threat. You have no idea, I have no idea. There could be many credible threats out there the general public knows nothing about. And we have no idea how many have been possibly thwarted.

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He said the biggest. Demonstrably false over his term.[/quote]
He said this three years ago, not today. And do you have total  numbers for his term that you’d like to share? Because just two incidents of white supremacists gunning people down in 2022 - in Buffalo and Colorado Springs - killed more people than were killed in New Orleans.[/quote]

The Colorado Springs targeted gays not people of color.  Even if you count it, the death numbers are the same at 15.[/quote]
The Colorado Springs shooter was a right winger. Again, do have more recent numbers than this? Because this was what Biden was referring to at his speech in 2021.

[i]“White supremacists were responsible for 
the highest number of terror incidents in four of the six years between 2017 and 2022. Overall, 30 (or 45%) of the 67 terror incidents during this period came from white supremacist perpetrators, compared to only 18 (27%) for anti-government extremists. In comparison, of 150 right-wing terror incidents tracked by the COE from 1993 to 2016, white supremacists and anti-government extremists were responsible for virtually the same number of acts (62 and 63, respectively). In other words, for most of the past 30 years, white supremacists and anti-government extremists represented roughly equivalent terror threats, but in recent years, white supremacists have noticeably surpassed anti-government extremists to become the most serious far right terrorist threat in the United States.

When one looks at the number of deaths caused by right-wing terrorist incidents rather than the number of incidents themselves, the danger of white supremacist violence becomes even more apparent. From 2017 to 2022, right-wing terror attacks killed 58 people in the United States (and wounded dozens more). Of the 58 dead, all but five (91%) were killed in white supremacist attacks.

Moreover, of the 53 people killed by white supremacists, all but three (94%) were killed in white supremacist shooting sprees specifically designed to cause mass casualties. Four incidents alone, each of which shocked the nation, killed 49 people: the Tree of Life synagogue shooting in Pittsburgh in 2018 (11), the 2019 El Paso Walmart shooting targeting people of Mexican descent (23), the 2022 Buffalo supermarket shooting targeting Black people (10) and the shooting attack on the LGBTQ+ nightclub in Colorado Springs that same year (5). The presence or absence of mass shootings was the main determinant in right-wing terror casualties for all years from 2017 to 2022.”[/i]
https://www.adl.org/resources/report/right-wing-extremist-terrorism-united-states[/quote]

The debate wasn’t left or right, it was about killings motivated by white supremacy. The Colorado shooting was motivated as far as we know by anti LGBTQ, and for Biden’s term. If you want to go back as far as 2017 then we can add in all the other earlier ISIS related killings including the Pulse club shooting in 2016 that killed 49, or San Bernardino in 2015 killing 14, or the NYC truck attack that killed 8 - which of course Biden also knew about when he made his claim.[/quote]

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