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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Even after the VA secretary of education clearly stated that school districts could continue to define their own classes (incl adv/accel) to meet the needs of their students, as they always have been able to do, RWNJs continued to push the boogeyman narrative.

VDOE told you they weren’t doing it. And it’s not something they could just sneak in there with such an open, public process that requires GA/gov approval.

Totally irrational. 
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getting tired of RWNJs, and LWNJs like yourself constantly yapping about each other.  Why dont you all get in a cage and settle it with a spar?[/quote]

The post is about equitable access to advanced math.  This is what VMPI and similar proposals around the country are aboiut.  OP is going the other way and saying minorities need to be placed in even more advanced classes, while most equity proposals involve reducing access for everyone.  One of the links on VMPI's website, ""Eliminate tracking systems that sort children based on perceived ability and demographic profile."
Therefore, the goal of detracking will not be realized without working to dismantle the various social, political, and cultural reasons tracking persists.  Those that have been privileged by the current system must be willing to
give up that privilege for more equitable schooling."
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See the chart at this link to see what VMPI was REALLY about, including:

“Not all college majors need calculus !” (direct quote).

Obviously, calculus can and should be de-emphasized or mostly eliminated, through VMPI.

[img]https://wtop.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/Capture-1.png[/img]

Here is the source:  WTOP:

https://wtop.com/virginia/2021/04/virginia-plans-to-improve-equity-and-learning-opportunities-through-high-school-mathematics/[/quote]

They wanted to ADD options that are more relevant for non-STEM majors. They weren’t eliminating calculus.

[img]https://i.ibb.co/kGQr0M5/acceleration.jpg[/img]
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I am pretty sure that most schools had the classes that were being added.

What they were doing was blending courses, so there wouldn't be Algebra and Geometry but whatever they were calling the class. I guess Essential Math 1 and 2.

Nothing in their graphic explained that Essential Math 1 and 2 where this blended Algebra Geometry concept, which was confusing. I remember watching a video where the students spent a good amount of time complaining about how hard Tri, Precalculus and Calculus were. Then they had FCPS Alumni who were in college talking about how they never used those classes and how those classes had been a waste of time. All to introduce these "new" math classes that were more practical. All of which ignored that there were already stats classes and classes that were meant to be more practical math usage.

[b]They were also removing the Advanced Math option in ES and the ability to take the grade 9 and 10 math, traditionally Algebra and Geometry, in 7th and 8th grade. [/b]

Essentially, they did a crap job of explaining that Algebra and Geometry were still being taught, just in a different manner. The videos I saw sure made it sound like the approach was being taken because 1) math was hard 2) higher level math was useless. [b]Finally, they were clearly eliminating the Advanced Math path in ES[/b] which meant that kids who were already bored in Advanced Math would be even more bored in the new program.

I remember looking over the material that they had on the website, watching the videos they posted, and being shocked enough at how it was being presented that I wrote to all the candidates and said that I would not vote for anyone supporting this change. They did a lousey job with their marketing. [/quote]

Thanks, PP, for this summary, and it’s generally what I recall as well.

When the VMPI advocates were claiming nothing was being taken away, lots of things were being added, and it was only about access, it all sounded impossible.

And it was.  [b]Hidden in the details were clear plans to eliminate calculus for nearly all students[/b], with a vague promise the might be a “potential pathway,” but no promises and not for most students.

I also recall VMPI would have [b]delayed Algebra for nearly all student subjects until 9th grade,[/b] but when challenged, the VMPI advocates again made [b]vague promises[/b] about “potential pathways could exist” or how “an individual school could be potentially be allowed the possibility of maintaining different classes.”

VMPI was presented in the most misleading and deceitful way possible at the time.  Hope it never comes back, as it was clearly a deeply flawed plan.[/quote]

All false. Stop spreading misinformation. 
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Nope. Earlier PP is right. They wanted to basically not have any advancement in math until 11th. If you listened to their webinars this was clear - all kids doing the same math classes for K-10 was a major part of VMPI. [/quote]

So major that they forgot to include it in the infographic?  No. It was a topic for discussion but wasn’t a major component like integrated math and expanding math options.

They always included AP and IB, which requires 8th grade algebra 1.

Anyway, let’s say there was some great conspiracy to sneak it in. It’s not like they could have gotten it past public reviews and GA/governor approval if it were unpopular.

So much faux hysteria.  
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